Don't want to start a fight, but honestly, I only ever hear those types of arguments from people who don't use Apple hardware.
People who do, in large majority, do it for two reasons: - build quality; - it mostly just works.
People who do, in large majority, do it for two reasons: - build quality; - it mostly just works.
This is part of the marketing delusion, multiple people have done A/B testing to clearly show Apple Build Quality is either on par with the rest of the industry or in many specific examples WORSE, people that claim this often have ZERO experience with non-apple products or are comparing different classes like a budget consumer level Lenovo to the pro line of apple, of course of $500 unit will be of less quality than a $2500 unit
For an example of poor build quality / engineering Check out Louis Rossmans' "Think Different" video where he outlines some of the various engineering problems Apple has had
>>- it mostly just works.
I see the often repeated, I have had android phone for decades and never had any issue with them, they just work as well. I am not sure what is "not working" on an Android, I can also say i have never had an Android phone that I had to hold "correctly" in order for the antenna to work...
Again I think this stems from comparing different classes of phone, Apple only makes Mid to High eng phones, (which is the market I am in for Android devices I tend to buy the Flagship from the manufacturer) they do not make budget and entry phone, these low end phones will have more problem. Would it be better to just price out entire segments of the population? That does not seem to be socially moral
It feels like you're trying to revive decade-old flamewars here. FWIW, on my Pixel 5 (and 2 before that), if I reverse my phone (hold normally but with camera at bottom) I get a drop in both cellular and wifi signal strength - more so if I'm in a location with marginal signal to begin with.
My pixel phones did not take high quality videos without crashing and over heating. This iPhone can do 4k 60fps for an hour without a hiccup. The build quality of this phone feels like it came from an alternate reality to me. Pixels in the same price point do not hold up against it on any metric that matters to me (stability, battery life, software reliability, hardware longevity)
Again, this is just anecdotally and I try not to be an Apple fanboy, but being the family tech point person, Apple has made my life marginally easier.
Apple phones are usually behind in whiz-bang features that Samsung and some others have but my opinion is killer features for smart phones are in the rear view mirror by a few years. Any of them are just fine and its more about the ecosystem and purchase history at this point (i.e. switching and you'd have to buy things again).
That has nothing to do with build quality
>Having too many bad experiences and strong bias against Microsoft
Well at least you admit your bias, as someone that works in enterprise and manages 1000's of windows computers i can say i would never want to attempt that with Apple who does not have the enterprise tooling that MS does
before I was in enterprise I felt the same about windows and primarily used Linux, I would never use a Apple which shows my bais... If apple was the last computer on earth I would crush it...
>>Any of them are just fine and its more about the ecosystem and purchase history at this point
I agree with that, and that should change, but I value my freedom too much ever to surrender it for Apple's walled garden
Oh I don't for a second think Apple stuff would ever compete with 1000's of devices being managed from an Enterprise IT department. I lived in that environment for a while and would dual boot to linux, run VirtualBox or get a 2nd PC from IT and wipe it and install linux.
Took a peak at the apple store, there is no $800 Macbook for sale. So we're comparing, an older (used?) higher-end Macbook to a budget Windows laptop? Why not compare an older higher-end Windows laptop to an older Macbook? Why not compare a new $500 budget Windows laptop to a $500 used Macbook?
>Its Windows that's the issue for me. Having too many bad experiences and strong bias against Microsoft
You have a have a subjective preference - fine - we all do. So why pretend there is some objective measure here of Apple's superiority? Apple sells very expensive higher-end devices. The reality is that the quality of those devices is about on par with other devices in that class.
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When I worked as an Apple laptop repair tech, that was almost nonexistent. 2/3 logic boards shipped in to be used for repairs on customer computers were faulty.
"- it mostly just works"
Imagine a laptop perpetually-stuck on OSX 10.2.4 that can't ever upgrade or it borks the system - that was my experience dealing with Apple laptops years ago as a repair tech. School system iBooks and PowerBooks were the worst offenders, and Apple had no discerning way to let you know which image belonged on which hardware, so we were always having to reimage laptops in hopes we picked a proper image for them.