> Or go into absurdism and say there is no real internal agency in any country and everything is a conspiracy theory.

Ah, so saying that Ukraine and it's citizens didn't have exactly the same agency as any other country and its citizens while the US was fomenting a coup against it's Russian-backed government is just like saying nothing means anything, black is white and up is down. It's absolutely ridiculous to say that there was any result of the most powerful country in the world using Ukraine as a battleground to attack the most powerful country in the region.

This is not the smart position, this is attempting to shut down upsetting discussions with circular nonsense.

Putting "helloo" in front of a claim is not an argument, any more than "oh, please" or "come on!"