Real ID was originally supposed to take in effect in 2008, so it's been delayed 17 years at this point, which is absurd. It was created 20 years before it would take effect.
Why is it still being pursued?
Why is it still being pursued?
It might have made sense in 2005 with the post-2001 political climate, but it's 20 years later. We've been fine with the current IDs for so long, and the climate is not anywhere near the same now as it was then with relation to security theater.
(Ignore the reply tweet, it's an obvious Russian troll)
If you had asked "How do I know if my ID meets the Real ID requirements", the answer is very simple: "It has an image of a star on the top of the ID".
I thought that because it was a (main) Ohio airport, this will be an appropriate question but probably you are right.
>If you had asked "How do I know if my ID meets the Real ID requirements", the answer is very simple: "It has an image of a star on the top of the ID".
I was asking this question so that I can decide if it is worth getting one because I don't want to keep using my passport on domestic flights (risking it getting lost, and heache to have a replacement outside my home country).
Or an American Flag somewhere on the ID (mine is randomly next to my photo), for the few states that only issue Real ID-compatible IDs in the form of EDL/EIDs. Looking at you, Washington.
And the star can be:
> gold or black star, a white star in a gold or black circle, a white star in a gold bear in the case of California, or a white star in a gold state map in the case of Maine.
It's so absurdly complicated. As someone else said it'd be fantastic parody if it weren't real life.
You have to go to the DMV for 'real id or enhanced' so I won't be getting one anytime soon until they force it on me. I have a passport for travel anyway.
What I meant by that statement is that Washington, unlike New York, only has EDLs available as a Real ID-compliant option. There are two options: "Unreal" DL or EDL. So there is no gold star at all for some states, they just have the US flag to denote something compatible with Real ID.
Second item is an analogy.. when cash for transit here was changing to an electronic ID, the BART transit agency found excuse after excuse to delay.. later, a finance officer said in a public forum "we have a cash flow and we control that" .. much later, things changed somewhat. I believe that Federal vs State govt is simply at odds over the endless self-employment of administering these ID programs, and who calls the shots... and they should be ! Fed growth is virtually a one-way ratchet in practice.
Washington state also charges a premium for Real ID. For those who don’t fly or cross from Canada to the US, Real ID is just a waste of money.
EDL in WA will be $115 for 5 years starting in 2024. A US Passport Book is $130 for 10 years (or a US Passport Card is $30 and good for domestic air travel and land/ground to CA and MX). Why would I bother with Real ID? I can’t even renew Real ID online or get it immediately after having my photo taken. While quicker than a Passport, it takes 2-3 weeks.
I have flown twice in the past few years without ID when I misplaced my wallet. TSA made me sign a form which basically said nothing useful. Children fly without ID. It's about control not about flight safety.
which these days are likely to be citizens. See this weekend's domestic terrorism event involving power substances being shot at in North Carolina:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/attack-on-north-carolina-power-...
I think that maybe "real ID" has been delayed because USA truly has been the most free country on earth (at the cost of poorer places not near the USA). And this kind of policy diminishes people's freedom. However given the current climate scenario, as well as the current geopolitical looming war.
So that's why it's being pursued, because more chaos, less stability in the system, raises the cost of freedom, and the system has to know whose insurance premiums to raise. You gotta track and measure the people to do this (i.e. to control them).
LOL.
If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful.