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> It is well-known that all currently available non-caloric sweeteners increase cardiometabolic risks.

I'd honestly like to hear more about this, thank you in advance.

As would I. I keep reading so much conflicting evidence. All I know is that every sweetener I've ever used made me hungrier than if I didn't use it, and made me want more. I haven't tried those berries that make sour things taste sweet yet, curious about that.

Why wouldnt it? You're used to the calories in your drink.

Ive drank a coke zero almost every other day for a year. Maybe at first you will feel this but it's your body adjusting for what it expected.

Calories in, calories out.

If there are any questions about my state / behaviors let me know!

Oh, I meant having something sweet regardless of why makes me hungrier vs something that isn't sweet. So black coffee doesn't make me hungry like stevia in coffee does. And diet dr peoper makes me hungry, while sparkling water makes me full.

Exactly what I mean - your mind associates sweet = calories. It's just a matter of time until the association degrades. (Source: me)

Ah, that makes sense, but you'd have to avoid anything sweet with calories to keep the connection broken right?

No, when you encounter something contradictory your mind goes from 'all sweet things are calorie dense' to 'not all sweet things are calorie dense' :)

Your results match the animal studies very well. When you give rats artificial sweetener in their water and free access to all the food they could want they eat more than rats given plain water.

The sweet taste seems to stimulate appetite and feeding beyond normal needs. It’s not hard to see how American obesity keeps increasing given even this one simple experiment.

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