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Why are you not buying a new phone like a good consumer?!? /s

This is a bizarre comment. Apple supports their hardware for a very long time and builds everything to last. Show me an android phone that still works well after eight years of daily use. Most fall apart within two.

Still rocking my MI A1 after 5 years, and allowed to actually replace its parts too without signing into proprietary repair program which requires apple to remotely activate your new installed parts. I hate when useful things that work just fine are artificially reduced to e-waste. Now if we could go back to the nokia times, when swappable batteries were thing and spare parts were actually sold by the manufacturers.

Still have my original Galaxy Note 1. Original battery, screen recently replaced with a third party one for cheap. Calls and texts work fine, navigation is OK, I don't care about the rest.

Do you still get software updates from the manufacturer? Also, you do understand that you are probably the exception to the rule that in general iphones seem to get support longer than android phones.

In my opinion, in general, unsafe (outdated) devices should not be used as they are a huge attack vector because there are so many of them.

Despite being an Android One phone, it was released with Android 7 but got stuck in Android 9 (Android 13 being the latest version). That makes it two years of updates. Yeah, the Android ecosystem is pathetic like that.

Last update was 2020, but I don't really care about the updates nor "security", which is just blanket term for lockdown, aka security for the vendor, not your security. Android allows me to do things and does not treat me like a criminal in addition to feeling like I actually own the device.

I don't know if I would keep some of my most private information on a device that has not had security upgrades for two years. Especially when exploits like [CVE-2022-20465](https://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CVE-2022-2046...) which bypass the lockscreen exist.

I wouldn't keep anything important on a phone no matter what phone it is. And even then if I did, I would use separate encryption app for storing such data.

>Most fall apart within two.

lol

half the people in the third world use their phones for 5+ years

And many of them are walking around 100% compromised from a security perspective.

even if that was true, they'd rather have a vulnerable device than a brick. just like they'd rather not have their 5+ year old car seized and their 5+ year old house demolished for their own safety

My sister's Galaxy S3 Mini is alive and well. Just needed a battery replacement.

Same goes for my SO's Galaxy Ace 4 Style, which she left lying there for an iPhone SE, but might return to the Samsung because the iPhone, while being a great device overall, will now require a battery replacement procedure because it wasn't designed for doing that at home and the battery is very much dead.

My Galaxy S8 is humming along nicely even though I subject it to a lot of environmental stress daily by e.g. showering with it in hand.

Bottom line is iPhones aren't that special in this regard anymore.

The main issue on Android for longevity isn't hardware. It's that you rarely get software updates - or even security updates - beyond a couple of years. An 8 year old device may be completely usable based on the hardware, but still not be able to run or download new apps, all while being a walking botnet.

You'll have to use my imagination, since I don't believe there's a way to attach a photo, but pretend I'm showing you the Android phone that's currently in my pocket.

> Most fall apart within two.

Maybe some budged non-flagship Android. You ought to compare iPhones to flagship Android devices. Because iPhone is a flagship device. Don't spread misinformation.

Why has the good consumer skipped SIX major OS updates?

to create a youtube vid with a clickbait title so they can earn more on ad impressions

I'm sorry, too busy eating the bugs.

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