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> That said, there was a floor which we were not allowed on, and I believe that was the sales floor

Is it just me or is this nuts? The only time I've seen restricted access is when there are security concerns (national security, special equipment, etc).

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I've often wished it were the other way around. Engineering was a floor that sales weren't allowed into without special invite. I've had two good experiences with open floor plans, but the open floor was spacious and dedicated to development. The one bad experience we shared the open floor with sales and they were... loud.

I once worked in an open office shared with sales. At some point the decision was made to put up a wall to segregate the engineers from sales.

I was sad about that; listening to sales had reminded me of my grandmother.

I liked my grandparents as well. I wouldn't want them chatting loudly, cheering or taking phone calls next to my desk while I'm working, though.

> listening to sales had reminded me of my grandmother.

Why?

The sales team was largely Mexican-American, and sometimes they would imitate their own grandmothers.

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