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This is wrong. It should be up to individual to decide what they should watch and what they shouldn't. There is difference between US government and CCP.

With your logic, EU and all other government should ban facebook, twitter as there is high probability that US companies supplies data to 3 letter companies.

What is need is good rules and regulations that applies to all companies equally. We live in globalized world.

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> With your logic, EU and all other government should ban facebook, twitter as there is high probability that US companies supplies data to 3 letter companies.

As a EU citizen: Just have a very close look at Facebook and TikTok and determine if they really follow our laws. If not, fine them into the ground.

I’m not convinced that every American who wants to should be permitted to stream their location to a Chinese company. I can see arguments either way, but the national security consideration seems to be quite real.

Location? Oh sweet summer child.

Tiktok's Android app has been disassembled enough to tell that the built-in browser likely contains a keylogger, but also contains the ability to receive plaintext commands and execute them in the Java VM.

Now realize that tiktok likely has location, camera, photo, and microphone permissions.

Oh yeah, and they've been spending lots of effort on anti-virtual-machine and obfuscation techniques.

A data leak at Alibaba revealed they're collecting: GPS locations, full lists of mobile contacts, SMS logs, IMSI numbers, IMEI numbers, device models and versions, stored app data from previous installations, and memory data.

https://penetrum.com/tiktok/Penetrum_TikTok_Security_Analysi...

I can't speak for Android, but on iOS it is trivial to prevent apps from getting any of this data. Remote code execution like you describe would directly violate Apple's rules. You can't gather GPS, SMS logs, or most of the other data you mention without explicit permission from the user.

> Remote code execution like you describe would directly violate Apple's rules.

That doesn't mean much, given that total malware sneaks through Apple's review process a lot.

I dunno if there's actually a constitutional way for the US to stop it. They can probably make it hard/impossible for TikTok/Bytedance to make money in the US, but banning the app itself is out of the question, unless Apple/Google decide to remove it of their own volition

What are the national security considerations that override an American’s god given right to broadcast their location?

Since when does an American have a god-given (or constitution-given) right to broadcast their location to a foreign intelligence agency? And since when does the constitution allow an espionage device to collect location information in exchange for silly videos?

I don’t really understand this. So, are you saying Twitch should not allow IRL streams to go to China?

> With your logic, EU and all other government should ban facebook, twitter as there is high probability that US companies supplies data to 3 letter companies

if they're consistently not operating within EU law, then yes. Did you expect the opposite?

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