To me it seems like an incredible number of purchases. $1-3 billion on vaporware depending on pricing distribution. Interventions per mile seem to be 4 orders of magnitude worse than the big players in the space (though they limit operating area).
At the end of the day, you still don’t have the feature you paid for, you’ve paid to be part of a (very risky) beta test. I don’t think that’s how most people buying FSD planned on this going.
As a ratio of spend, it turns out I did.
You did end up paying for Tesla to figure out how to build the product that didn’t exist when sold. (all of which should’ve become a useable product “next year” by the way)
The fact you’re ok with that doesn’t mean everyone else is. It doesn’t mean it was marketed ethically.
I’m not even saying you were swindled. I think teslas seem like nice cars. You’re just making the wrong argument.
They sold everyone a snickers. Just because you’re happy to have nougat and a little Carmel doesn’t change the fact you’re missing peanuts and chocolate.
For Tesla to fail to figure out how to build the product that didn't and doesn't exist and never will on the cars they sold it for
As a non-Tesla driver forced to drive alongside many Teslas on my regular commute (I drive past Hawthorne, i.e., SpaceX), my experience is that FSD/AP has actually gotten worse. Phantom breaking, extreme tailgating, veering across double-yellow lines, right turns that narrowly miss pedestrians...
My coworker has a Tesla and he refuses to engage AP or FSD anymore. He had multiple interventions/disengagements during every drive (in his words: every few miles) and the last one involved his Tesla veering into the opposite lane because it mistook a drainage groove in the road for a lane marker.
Seattle is a wonderful planned city with very predictable roads, and very safe drivers.
I want to see how a tesla navigated Boston. That’s a city that wasn’t planned, has much more aggressive drivers, and inclement weather much more often.
It varies a bit by neighborhood, but for the most part Avenues run north/south and streets run east west. Makes it very easy to navigate. Much of the city also uses numbered names, for avenues. If you’re trying to get to 22nd ave and you’re on 17th, you know you need to travel west - along a street (any street) and you should reach it.
On a larger level, the city planners have done a great job wrt gradual density increases in the city, and consistent up zoning along transit corridors. They’ve done a good job at promoting biking and alternative transit by building out a useful set of bike paths (if imperfect). I think the link expansions missed the mark, cost too much, and will take too long to build, but that doesn’t impact driving experience. I think the city should have dumped a ton of street cars (like in SLU and cap hill) across the city instead.
Boston, by comparison, is based on animal trails, and the grid is not consistent within a neighborhood, and is non existent across neighborhoods. The street names give you almost no insight into where you’re going.
Compare the cities here: https://geoffboeing.com/2018/07/comparing-city-street-orient...
Oh and as far as drivers go, Boston drivers are way way more aggressive. I won’t claim they’re worse at driving or break more laws, but they’re used to way more traffic, and they’re way more aggressive.