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Bullying doesn't usually happen in plain site of teachers, administrators, or parents. Often it's only noticed after a students mood changes, and it can only be dealt with when that student is willing to share what is wrong. It's also not easy to spot right away when you're seeing 100 kids a day across 4 or 5 classes.

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It can also happen in plain site of teachers who do nothing. This is even worse mentally because the situation seems even more hopeless.

Ever seen a kid clearly bully another kid, like call him names then push him down and the teacher comes over and says 'cut it out you two, now get up and shake hands'.

The bullying I suffered was from the teachers.

> it can only be dealt with when that student is willing to share what is wrong

And "dealing with it" can make the students situation worse in some cases

Of course it can, because we did not define what course of action "dealing with it" entails.

And I can ensure you the bullies, if they are able, will find a way to twist the situation to continue and worsen the abuse.

And I can assure you, there are interventions a institution can take that change situations for the better. IF the institution has the capacity to do so. I can only speak for European schools tho.

Pease name these interventions. How big is the share of European schools that have the capacity to follow these best practices? In Germany for example, there is a teacher shortage.

Speaking for central EU schools, there is no such capacity and the teachers sometimes join in the bullying too, and pretty often they ignore it when it's the popular children doing it.

It's also very hard to deal with it if you have 30-35 children per class and 3-5 classes per year - which you do because we are at the height of a population wave in this region right now.

They are also absolutely unable to deal with stuff like dyslexia, ADHD, or other mental issues - meanwhile we have a push for "inclusive schooling"...

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