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Tell me you're not making complex webapps without telling you're not making complex webapps

The publish-subscribe/observer/mediator pattern is perfectly fine for state management, and doesn't need a framework. At most, a small-ish library, but you can also re-implement it yourself quite easily.

Reading your comment, I have the impression you took it as "there shouldn't be any state management necessary", instead of "state management doesn't need a framework" sense.

"State management is complex, so we used a framework to make things easier."

"Why use a widely popular, well-documented, battle-tested framework? Just have one of your senior devs build something over the weekend. This will definitely reduce complexity."

Like... I get what you're saying. But "build your own" is not a default answer for an extremely complicated software engineering topic (which, yes, state management is!)

FWIW, Redux literally _is_ a pub-sub/observer pattern implementation :) And the Redux core library _is_ extremely small.

But, that led to the community building hundreds of addon libraries for the same sets of use cases, which is what led us to build our official Redux Toolkit package to simplify standard Redux usage patterns.

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