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What web3 stuff exists without crypto?

many?! you think web3 is only about crypto?

Can you give examples of the many web3 projects that don’t involve crypto? If I’m uninformed, I’d need information to correct that.

yes, i can. from a simple search: https://sourceforge.net/software/web3/

it's a matter of understanding here. web3 is a set of technologies (decentralization, blockchains, etc.). once you understand that you know that with or without crypto it can stand on its own. (oh i mean cryptocurrency just in case you didn't get it).

Can you point to anything specific which you’ve actually used which isn’t a cryptocurrency sales vehicle? That page mentions “crypto”, “NFT”, “defi”, etc. many times.

Can you give one (1) example of a web3 project (that doesn’t involve crypto) that you use/have contributed to/know anybody that uses?

Most of the links in that arbitrary search page include crypto terms in the description, and I’m guessing that most (all?) of them include them after clicking through.

You have personal knowledge of many web3 use cases that don’t involve crypto. Do you have a single example?

> Can you give one (1) example of a web3 project (that doesn’t involve crypto) that you use/have contributed to/know anybody that uses?

no i won't. that page is enough for you. who are you?

I’m a curious person! Thank you for clarifying that there are exactly zero non-crypto web3 projects.

Out of curiosity, why are you trying to convince me of something while simultaneously refusing to give a single actual example? You’ve already put in the effort to respond to me multiple times but you can’t type www dot (non crpto web3 project) dot com because it’s too uhh… demeaning? Literally impossible?

You're not a curious person, you've posted anti crypto stuff before, it's in your posting history. Can you at least post truthfully about your position? Being anti-crypto is fine but don't lie about your priors.

The topic of this conversation is about how web3 and crypto are separate.

Are you saying that my being skeptical of crypto means I’m biased against web3?

How could that be the case if they’re unrelated concepts?

Also lol at digging through my post history instead of talking about the topic.

All I'm saying here is that you claim you're "a curious person" but actually you're a biased person. These kinds of fake assertions cheapen the quality of discussion here on HN. Be upfront about how you feel. I'm not here to defend either concept or to engage in another flame war here on HN.

> Also lol at digging through my post history instead of talking about the topic.

Cool have a nice day.

Do you have an example of a non-crypto web3 project or are you literally just here to contribute “I don’t like you”?

What are you asking for exactly? Projects that see use but don't have a cryptocurrency/token behind them? Metamask, Opensea, Ledger, Oncyber..

Those are all crypto products. This conversation began with a poster stating that web3 and crypto are separate things, implying that web3 is something that could exist without crypto. If the only web3 applications are ways to buy/sell/exchange/mint/store/etc crypto assets, then it is not in fact true that it’s an ecosystem that’s separate from crypto stuff.

The original Web3 stuff that came less than a year after the Web2 stuff in the early 2000's, a few years before the web went to 11, two decades ago.

Web3 sounds to me like antiquated nostalgia for something that happened at the turn of the century.

What, specifically, are you talking about?

There was an attempt to make semantic web = web3.0 in around 2009 or so. Eg https://www.researchgate.net/publication/305443181_PROGRESSI... (April 2009)

It didn't really go anywhere.

Web3 now is sort of a thing because one of the main Ethereum client libraries is called Web3: https://github.com/web3/web3.js

So, web3 doesn’t rely on crypto so long as you define the term in a way that’s inconsistent with how it’s basically universally used today?

I think you are misinterpretating my comment!

I specifically said 'It didn't really go anywhere" and pointed at the Ethereum (aka crypto) Web3 library!

I was expanding on @DonHopkin's comment "The original Web3 stuff that came less than a year after the Web2 stuff in the early 2000's".

In my view back then it was dumb (Web2.0 was still a new thing) and was just an attempt by the Semantic Web fans to get some hype. It didn't work.

(For better or worse I work at a Web3 company so I'm reasonably aware of how it is used within that community today)

You're confusing Semantic Web (also known as Web 3.0) with "web3".

Wikipedia has a disambiguation page in this: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Web_3.0

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