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No, I don't believe you at all. If you hurt the baby, it suffers. Inability of most people to remember those times, doesn't make that not the case.

It signals danger and performs a mechanical avoidance procedure. You react to it by feeling a protective emotion.

To know if it suffers, first you have to understand what suffering is, in scientific terms, and make sure you detach your builtin empathy from an actual process, because it’s only yours own.

We literally have shittons of scientific research on exactly that. Not only that but many people can remember being babies.

"Believe me" doesn't cut it. Here are some accounts of remembering being born. My earliest memory is at 18 months old.

https://www.vice.com/en/article/43kned/i-remember-being-born

What a deeply disturbing comment.

What's "deeply disturbing" about that? I just meant that cognitively there isn't much going on yet.

"believe me" - he could well have been a baby himself.

That smile is so creepy.