It bothers me that people argue so poorly.
That's why debate exists. And why some people excel at podcasts Joe Rogan being an examplar.
His best debates have very similar formats.
"Tell me about"/"why do you think"
"What about X"
"So you're saying Y?"
"Wouldn't that mean Z"
People are bothered because he rarely ever seems to shoot others down just gets them to lay out their points and fleshout reasoning.
The only time he shoots you down is if he thinks you don't have an explanation around some aspects of your point. But his job is done the audience can make up its own mind.