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TLDR: just to generate the legalese needed for the decision, not the decision it self.

This is how I use chatgpt. “Write me an email explaining to stakeholders that we have x” and then I mention as much detail and whatever it spits out I tweak and go from there. I have been told I write amazing emails but my problem is I spend a lot of time thinking my email over way too much, so I like to see how condensed chatgpt gives me of a template so I can reuse it.

I often take a five paragraph email and condense it back down to like three sentences before chagpt, now I can save myself the process.

I would honestely have doubts giving an unvetted third party, openai through ChatGPT, access to any prorietery or business relevant information.

Agreed. One could however use a nonconfidential placeholder for the sensitive information and then replace it with the real information while revising the ChatGPT output.

Even that isn’t enough since even if you use codenames there will be still enough complementary information to fill the gaps especially if OpenAI knows who you are and if you are coming out of a corporate network they probably have enough information based on your internet connection alone.

So say you work for PharmaCorp and you are developing a new drug even if you turn the name of the drug into a code name and you ask OpenAI to write an email about say a failed or successful FDA approval process that’s more than enough for someone to take advantage of it and for you to get fired over it too…

Isn’t this the case for all web services as well? Google doc, office 365, aws, Google cloud

Assuming MS isn't conducting corporate espionage in their customers, I'd say no, not the same thing.

If they just use your questions as further training data, the information you send to them might make it into other people's hands.

No, both from a service and contractural and technical perspective using most SAAS is quite different than using ChatGPT currently.

And overall there is a reason why the USG has their own private AWS zones…

I see, may be OpenAI should offer a plan to promise only run inferencing and not inspect the data. Or may be collaborate with amazon to serve the model on private AWS zones.

This is what Microsoft is doing by brining it to Azure.

It will allow you to use the inference model and possibly even train it further on your data without having all the inputs that are going into ChatGPT right now serve as future training content.

Essentially, yes. One reason not to use them.

Yeah I've seen a lot of people who seem to believe that the prompts they give ChatGPT aren't being cataloged and saved when they certainly are.

It sends every prompt you give it to a server, by design it has to as the model is far too computationally expensive to run locally.

> Yeah I've seen a lot of people who seem to believe that the prompts they give ChatGPT aren't being cataloged and saved when they certainly are.

Are you sure there are a lot of people who believe that? The UI literally saves the prompts on the left side.

Well, there are enough people using it for work. So at the very least, they don't care about potentially leaking confidential information.

> I would honestely have doubts giving an unvetted third party, openai through ChatGPT, access to any prorietery or business relevant information

I have done this, but I fill sensitive information with bullshit terms.

I have just uploaded the results for my analysis of <bullshit>. Some things to keep in mind. There was a request to highlight terms associated with <bullshit>. I have done so, please see the sections titled <bulshit, bullshit, and bullshit>....

Obviously, one can still worry that I may not have "redacted" enough information and that I'm still revealing sensitive information, but I'm comfortable with my ability to determine what's sensitive and what's not.

Depending on the industry and company this may be illegal and grounds for dismissal.

It would violate basically every confidentiality stipulations in any contract I ad in my career so far. I think there is one were it could even have got me jail, worst case. But then there are people leaking classified technical data about modern tanks on wargaming forums...

If a person uses Windows, Microsoft already has access to any information which was ever typed on this computer. Nobody cares about it, despite the fact that it's known that Windows can literally send keystrokes as telemetry data to its home. Why ChatGPT would be different? You either trust that corporations don't abuse their power or you don't engage in any IT.

If a company uses MS or any other aoftware, they have all.konda of liscense agreements and conyracts with those software providers. If an individual employee decides to use ChatGPT to write a report, the comoany does not have any of those in place with openai. That is a major difference.

I give it really generic asks and it says things like [company name]

>According to the court document, the legal questions entered into the AI tool included “Is an autistic minor exonerated from paying fees for their therapies?” and “Has the jurisprudence of the constitutional court made favorable decisions in similar cases?”

It does say they were fact checked, but it also seems to leave room for questions. Like, for example, did ChatGPT choose the most appropriate answers/background, or just ones that fact-checked well enough? Might that matter later if the decision is rehashed or used as precedent?

> Like, for example, did ChatGPT choose the most appropriate answers/background, or just ones that fact-checked well enough?

Yeah. Train it on a rulings that pre-date the civil rights movement and see how great it is.

On the other hand: Train it on rulings from the past 30 years, but remove all traces of gender, race, income, location and education. Then let the A.I. reveal a ton of bias in judges, prosecutors and juries.

Welcome to the era of bullshit AI bureaucracy, where humans aren't able to even understand the rules, but have to follow them.

I think eventually this would end all of the Bullshit people have to do, because its so easy to read and so easy to summarize by the same AI, so why not just skip it then?

Write* not read

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