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The installer also doesn't even let you view the Terms and Conditions. It's styled as a link but it literally can't be opened: https://imgur.com/CUzLdRQ

This is ironic considering how aggressive the language is on their branding page: https://voice.ai/branding-guidelines

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> We use technology to check for infringement on the Internet and on social platforms and may automatically (or manually) issue takedown notices for content that infringes on our IP. Simply add our approved clip to your content to avoid takedown notices. We reserve all rights.

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Now it works: https://voice.ai/tos

So they're reading this thread, I suppose. But no statement yet.

Someone should just hack them, put the code on github, and respond to dcma requests with GPL legalities.

They should be fined too, but the above at least would solve their miscreantic behaviour.

No that would be equally wrong.

It would be legally wrong, but morally, it would be less cut and dry. I'm not saying it is moral either, but I would like to point out that those two things aren't equal.

Would it, actually? The EU allows for decompilation in very specific cases and the GPL license means that they must provide their source code because of the way they used the GPL'd code.

If someone in the EU were to request the source code, wait a while to give them a decent amount of time, and then get the source out themselves, I don't know if the court would argue in favour of Voice.ai.

You could argue that distributing the decompiled source would violate some kind of copyright, however the GPL also includes the freedom to redistribute the requested code.

Alternatively, only contributors to the GPL'd software have any legal standing against voice.ai as a random user's freedoms being violated are probably not enforced by the users themselves. The Praat people (a university) and the libgcrypt people (GnuPG) are the ones whose license has been violated so they should be the ones free to sue, possibly with external help (EFF etc.)

I've read about more unexpected turns happening in IP court, who knows what will happen. Morally decompiling would be right, but in a legally speaking I wouldn't risk it.

Even assuming you beat the DMCA takedowns, there's the whole thing about you hacking them to get the code in the first place.

> The EU allows for decompilation

The comment you're replying to doesn't advocate hacking

> Alternatively, only contributors to the GPL'd software have any legal standing against voice.ai

Wasn't the EFF in a lawsuit just to prove that also users have a legal standing?

Someone hurriedly moved an </a>

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