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Why doesnt mozilla work on a privacy protecting replacement for third party cookies? Because they are funded by google.

Because Firefox has a tiny user base and nobody is going to follow their standards as long as other browsers do enable third party cookies. Also, there are alternatives to third party cookies for most use cases, they're just more difficult to implement.

Neither Google, nor Microsoft, nor Apple seem to care much about re-engineering third party cookies. Until that changes, any attempts from Mozilla to change the standards is a waste of time and effort, really.

Apple and Mozilla did a lot to restrict the scope of third-party cookies: isolation, partitioning etc.

It's hard to change them without breaking most of the web.

1% of a billion is 10 million.

You might be interested in learning about state partitioning: https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Web/Privacy/State_P...

They did. about:config -> privacy.thirdparty.isolate = true

at least they made that really easy to find and do.

Follow the money.

It breaks things because a lot of websites expect it to work. If websites stop working then Mozilla will lose marketshare even faster. Still, it's not that difficult for people who know what they're doing to find.

I see a privacy.firstparty.isolate, but no thirdparty variant. Was that just an error on your part, or is it a pref that needs to be manually created, even?

> Was that just an error on your part

Yes, sorry about that. It's privacy.firstparty.isolate

What makes you think we need a replacement for third party cookies when we can just disable them?

Yeah, I've never understood this. Disabling third party cookies is the first thing I do with any new browser (uBlock Origin is second). It takes 30 seconds and very rarely causes problems.

It breaks legit uses of cookies. We need standard non-cookie based authentication. All browser features that enable violations of privacy need privacy respecting alternatives. Adoption cant happen until they exist.

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