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That this question gets asked every second in every office in the world should tell you the answer. Young people don't realize this Jira shit is a very recent phenomenon. If you look at the history, it's obvious the whole thing was made up to give people jobs.

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Are you sure Jira is the actual problem here?

Jira itself doesn’t require a lots of process. It has support for Kanban, for example. But companies can choose to bake in a lot of process in their use of Jira. And some do.

I’m not defending Scrum/SAFe here, but I’m not convinced that Jira itself is the culprit.

You don’t need a scrum master to use JIRA. In fact, it tends to work better without one.

Ha yeah my developer manager used to lead them along with the lead business analyst. Went smooth and effective. Kanban board is useful, along with a short stand up.

Now we are in 2 different scrums with 2 scrum masters and it's legit the biggest waste of time ever. They don't even know what half the jiras mean, let alone the context.

Honestly have to agree a sticky note and swim lanes in an office was the most productive strategy I've ever worked in. No BA, no scrum and only a TE that managed e2e and integration test. No, Jira no sprint, no breakdowns. Just do what you need on the priority.

Large orgs pay a communication tax, and it's heavy for a lot.

Recent, as in since 2005 thereabouts.

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