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> Yeah, you didn’t cite any laws that restrict this future. You’re wrong.

I'm not wrong. I just don't call wishful thinking "the future", "reality" etc.

> Let’s also not be disingenuous. those “fantasy interfaces” are working prototypes and not just movie CGI

Prototypes are not "actual usable interfaces that are used by real humans for any extended periods of time". Note how his own company uses none of these interfaces.

> There are also real world products like NReal

Ah yes. A pair of galsses with 46 degree field of view that you need to connect with a cable to the actual device where all the processing and control happens.

> what Quest headsets and the new Apple headset will support

Ah yes. The new Apple headset that you know literally nothing about will one hundred percent will have this... Even though it's rumoured not to be VR device

> Bulky headsets are the past and present. That isn’t the future, or even the near future

Oh? We've solved the question of batteries? Of compact CPUs and GPUs capable of processing this? Etc. And all this is coming in near future?

You are completely wrong. you have yet to cite a law of physics or some biological fact that will prevent this from being a reality. Ie you’re making really terrible assumptions based on lack of knowledge.

> A pair of galsses with 46 degree field of view that you need to connect with a cable to the actual device where all the processing and control happens.

Yes, and it’s shipped and will continue to be improved through iteration.

> Ah yes. The new Apple headset that you know literally nothing about will one hundred percent will have this... Even though it's rumoured not to be VR device

We know more about the Apple device through patent filings and leaks. It is a VR device with pass through that will likely cost $3000. Their AR prototype costs too much to ship.

> Oh? We've solved the question of batteries? Of compact CPUs and GPUs capable of processing this? Etc. And all this is coming in near future?

All of the issues that you’ve cited can be fixed and improved gradually; these devices are already real and shipped. Yes, these improvements are coming in the near future. As for batteries, that’s been solved 1-2 years ago. Your complaints are very similar to the pundits dumping on the first release of the iPhone. It’s not that hard to see the overall trend of better, faster, cheaper for tech product evolution. It’s not the first time it’s happened, nor will it be the last

I don’t understand why you keep doubling down on a subject that you know nothing about.

> We know more about the Apple device through patent filings and leaks.

No you don't. Apple routinely files hundreds of patents (any major company does that). It doesn't mean those patents will end up as a shippable product.

All you know is the never ending rumor mill.

> these devices are already real and shipped.

Of course they are not

> As for batteries, that’s been solved 1-2 years ago.

Of course they haven't. There's literally no battery + cpu + gpu tech that you can put in an AR device lightweight enough for extended use.

All "lightweight" ones use a cable to connect to an external device.

The rest are bulky and heavy. Because you cannot bullshit your way out of physics and biology by pretending "this has been solved".

> I don’t understand why you keep doubling down on a subject that you know nothing about.

There's objective reality and there's wishful thinking

> Apple routinely files hundreds of patents (any major company does that). It doesn't mean those patents will end up as a shippable product.

Analysts have a good track record of predicting what Apple is about to release including specs. Stop pretending that it hasn’t happened on a regular basis over the years.

> Of course they are not

No. We have AR and VR devices that have shipped and sold in the millions. Those are facts whether or you decide to accept them.

> Of course they haven't. There's literally no battery + cpu + gpu tech that you can put in an AR device lightweight enough for extended use.

It already has existed in the form of 3rd party magnetically switchable batteries. It’s been selling on Amazon for at least two years now. As for the headset capable of doing this, 10-20 million have already been sold. Just because you’re not aware of it, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist.

> The rest are bulky and heavy. Because you cannot bullshit your way out of physics and biology by pretending "this has been solved".

Waiting for incremental improvements to happen is very different from being impossible to do. This is not a hard concept to understand. Again, these are shipped devices and not vaporware. You keep claiming that some law of physics or biology makes this impossible to accomplish yet you still can’t name a specific law that prohibits progress ie you’re full of it

> There's objective reality and there's wishful thinking

Yeah there’s wishful thinking on your part pretending that you’re not ignorant of the subject, but the facts are in my side.

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