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Conspiracy Theorists Think Walkable Cities Are Open-Air Prison Dystopias

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The "conspiracy theorists" are listening to other folks with contrary goal. Then assuming their intent is the worst possible. And they're upset about their strawmen.

The people who call other people conspiracy theorists aren't even listening to anyone with contrary goals.

How did journalism become this?

The internet is giving a platform to insane people who normally would be ignored...

The problem is that there are groups that actively amplify the insane voices online to encourage chaos in Western countries.

It is easy to get swept into an information bubble where you end up exchanging messages/comments will like minded fools. In the old days such people were laughed at and mostly harmless. Dumb ideas, like vaccines causing autism, would not have as many ardent proponents without the internet. Humanity is not ready for the easy dissemination and siloing of information.

Yes, numero 6

This kind of thing isn't new. See the conspiracy theories around Agenda 21 [1].

It gets pretty loony, like bike lanes and public parks and good public transit being part of a plan to give the UN control of the US. The "reasoning" there is that those make cities more attractive (which will entice more of the population to move to cities) and make it so people in cities will give up cars.

Then, when UN troops come to take away our guns and take over, it will be easier for them because most of the population will be concentrated in cities and it will be easy to restrict their movements by taking control of public transit.

[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Agenda_21#Conspiracy_theories

Good for them, before the 20th Century and part of the 20th Century, the majority of people rarely traveled more than 5 to 10 miles (8-16km) from their home. I remember reading that somewhere.

As a young child in the small City I grew up in, I would say the majority of people born the the late 1800s, very early 1900s have never been outside the City Limits. None of them in my neighborhood ever had a Divers License and had no need to go anywhere.

I don’t understand the good for them part. Is it good to not want a walkable city? One can have walkability and retain the ability to drive to another city, right?

"Good for them" in this context is a sarcastic remark like, "I am glad they believe that but you know that believe is rather odd". Hard for me to explain.

I see. I thought you might have meant something differently. Thanks for clarifying!

"The prisoner" was an excellent serie but not a documentary. Despite those white balloon similarities, it is fiction

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[1] - https://archive.ph/Nnoye

From Canadians I know, Edmonton has a similar culture to areas of the US like Texas, Wyoming ...

Very auto/fossil fuel centric.

Edit: looks like the post I was replying to is gone :)

Two notes:

- UN have published the New Urban Agenda far before

- ALL new kind of cities experiments proved to be surveillance capitalism and dictatorship dreams (and reality, here and there)

So AS ALWAYS there are some truth in the Vox Populi and some falseness, and as always some just drink anything from one side or the opposite, because their mind are binary, so one side is 100% good and the other 100% evil, nothing might exist in between. For them both surely the future will no be good anyway...

My conspiracy theory is they fearmonger and grift people for a living, same as religious leaders, politicians, etc.

Car cartel lobbies against common sense.

Awkwardly ignoring the fact that this is exactly what is occurring in China today…

Divergents.

Thanks ROSHAN ABRAHAM, great article!

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