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Yeah. My former employer shut down because of that trend, and it has only gotten worse in the years since then. I recently, reluctantly had to adblock APNews because of malware in the ads, and thats not some two-bit organization. Some other sites I love have dropped off my radar, as I can only juggle so many subs.

Web 3.0 may be bollocks, but I hope someone distills a good publisher micropayment system out of it. Or maybe a bulk "Netflix/Spotify for news" would be a better approach?

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>Web 3.0 may be bollocks, but I hope someone distills a good publisher micropayment system out of it. Or maybe a bulk "Netflix/Spotify for news" would be a better approach?

RSS.

So many RSS feeds these days are basically just "New post - link to site". It's mostly killed the model; what used to be a nice stripped down stream of just the text (and sometimes image) content has become a layer of indirection in the "come look at our ads" shithousery.

Apple News

$13/mo and AppleOS only

(Or $10/month, in USD.)

So is your objection paying $13/month?

That's a lot if you only open a few links a month.

It also doesn't at all help people like me who don't use any major news sites at all, but are only redirected to specific articles there through links on platforms like this one.

These services depend on using their aggregator, not any you want.

What does it matter if you found an article you're interested in through HN, reddit, recommendation from a friend? That's the world wide web.

Because you can't read a linked article from HN if you have Apple News.

You'd have to go and manually find the same article in the Apple News app to read it under your subscription terms.

First World Problems much?

> These services depend on using their aggregator, not any you want.

Exactly. It could solve the problem if I was able to create accounts on those news sites, and link my apple account.

Just wanted to point out that we started from a way to dont have subscriptions and go pay as you go and circled all the way back to subscription

And the app crashes constantly while you are in the middle of an article, and dumps you back at he main lading page wen it restarts, and has not been updated in a dogs age so is apparently abandonware.

Is there a nonproprietary way to save articles with apple news? What sucks with these "news apps" is you have no way to organize your research material how you'd like e.g. with a more powerful reference manager. Maybe they should release a research product like how google has scholar.google.com

How do you propose Apple does that? By giving content producers content away without their consent? The News App has content that you would normally have to pay individually for.

I mean, they don't exactly block screenshotting if you really wanted to get at the article and disseminate it using that platform. Say you are a highscooler doing a report on current events. Apple news is no help for you for that if you actually want to manage references easily. Being able to also pull your article list out of apple news and into some other future as of yet uninvented service is also powerful stuff for the end user, but of course apple doesn't care about that since, why should anyone leave the heavenly walled garden of earthly delight they've created? There are of course many reasons why its useful to have a record of your reading that you can manipulate how you'd like.

And if I’m a student citing a reference, how much good does it do if the original reference is behind a paywall?

You don’t have to screen shot anything to get text out of Apple News. You can use the high tech procedure of “selecting the text and copying and pasting”

And if you want to get the original URL, you can also do the very unintuitive option if “copy link”.

For instance if you paste this link into your browser,

https://apple.news/AhwAFsLbdQZaWT1xFsifQ_g

It redirects you here:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2023/02/13/ownership...

It really isn’t that hard.

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