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True, I equate privacy and freedom, give or take.

Anyone who ever end up an their radar would probably never be removed from that,and never even know.

It is highly offensive that the German government pretends it does not know where the crime is happening. How about they deal with a few of these clans numbering 100s of people? This can be done , has to be done the convential way, as these clans will not be as stupid as leave digital traces, as computer illeterate as they might be.

The government has not even defined who they are targeting, they just use the commonly thrown around terms.

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> It is highly offensive that the German government pretends it does not know where the crime is happening. How about they deal with a few of these clans numbering 100s of people? This can be done , has to be done the convential way, as these clans will not be as stupid as leave digital traces, as computer illeterate as they might be. > > The government has not even defined who they are targeting, they just use the commonly thrown around terms.

The government is just after the really easy convictions on the cheap. Traditional investigation is complex and expensive, needs personnel, etc. Sifting through vast databases for easy wins is far cheaper. Catching big fish also isn't opportune, because that would mean politicians being responsible for incarcerating their buddies, like in Cum-Ex. In related news, the most common reason to be incarcerated in Germany: Using public transport without a ticket... Most convictions for the least amount of effort.

Wow,I do believe that with the tickets but it is "unbelievable" as in "unfassbar".

I ran a free forum service once, long time ago. Some teens created a forum where they posted Heil Hitler and whatnot. I couldn't oversee over 2000 forums. One day I got a phone call, the Kriminalpolizei. Long story short, I had to write a script that extracts IP addresses and time of posts. That took me 4 hours which they didn't pay me.

Well, that's why you shouldn't ever have any data that they could want or ask for. Never save IP addresses.

> The government is just after the really easy convictions on the cheap.

Feels like a reasonable description of modern society run by zeitgeist of MBAs.

“I want to extract the most value for the least amount of effort on my part.”

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