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What do you mean? Milk is so cheap (relatively speaking) that it makes little sense to me that it would be "substituted" with something else. But maybe I'm out of the loop here

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I'm curious what the true cost of dairy/soy/oat milk would be without gov subsidies.

> true cost of dairy milk

$6/gal

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/us-subsidies-lead-to-pover...

https://www.realagriculture.com/2018/02/u-s-dairy-subsidies-...

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=17997055

(The US spends about $22 billion on dairy subsidies each year)

I imagine the true costs (and climate impact) of soy and oat milk are lesser than dairy because animal husbandry isn't involved.

https://ourworldindata.org/environmental-impact-milks

https://www.bbc.com/news/science-environment-46654042

There is no milk in soy or oats. It’s exhausting shopping for groceries with so much false advertising requiring having to read the fine print on every package for purchase.

At the rate dairies are going under, it won't be a problem forever (~5-10% shutter each year). Milk is just a word, the definition will likely shift over time as consumption continues to trend down.

https://www.fb.org/market-intel/usda-report-u-s-dairy-farm-n...

https://www.lancasterfarming.com/farming-news/news/there-are...

https://www.ers.usda.gov/amber-waves/2022/june/fluid-milk-co...

https://sph.umich.edu/pursuit/2019posts/cows-milk-human-heal...

Food is just a word, also.

“Is it oat milk or cow’s milk?” hardly requires reading the fine print. The oat milk says oat milk on it, usually prominently.

It’s false advertising pretending to be a trademark

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