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I am also curious about this, what specific needs are better served by CL than Clojure or any Scheme / Racket?

Starting a CL project in 2023 seems risky to me given that most libraries are stagnant. I would love to be proven wrong.

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Could it be that most of the critical libraries are stable? Can you give an example of a necessary library that is stagnant?

CLSQL, most graphics toolkits or lisp-stat.

for ORM people tend to use Mito. i think lisp-stat library is actually being developed. however one numerical cl library that doesnt get enough mention and is being constantly developed is petalisp for HPC

https://github.com/fukamachi/mito

https://lisp-stat.dev/

https://github.com/marcoheisig/Petalisp

Thanks for mentioning Mito, I had not seen that before. I used to rely on database migrations with Ruby’s ActiveRecord, it would be nice to have that for CL.

for my use case its just that the common lisp compilers, SBCL in particular, blow anything Clojure or Scheme/Racket has to offer. on the other hand the stability of the language should not be underestimated, but this is something you feel after years of use

on the other hand i think the common lisp development culture is very different to the black box library plug&play culture of other languages. if you find that you like to extend/personalise libraries it is a great language and i find the code to be much more comprehensible than the libraries from other languages i use. of course this is all a bit more demanding on the developer but for me the rewards are worth it

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