> So you already know there was no such agreement or promise, and still try claim it as such.

Clearly I laid out reasons why there is a promise yet you claim I am fraudulently claiming otherwise?

> they get immediately targeted by disinformation and indefensible Russian imperialist ideology.

I don't give a shit about russian ideology, if you don't care to disagree and correct what I said respectfully it would be better if you said nothing at all.

Russians use this reason to justify their actions, I did not justify anything Russia did. You can only join NATO by invitation, when expanding an alliance in a time of peace, it makes sense for the only real enemy of the alliance to fear how they'll fare in the event of a future military conflict no? And NATO knew that and played chicken with a psychotic dictator.

You peope that think the way you do are caught up in morality and who is right and wrong. I am talking about what actions led to conflict and how peace can be acheived. I don't care who you blame, it would not be nice if Ukraine is just the start