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This is a bizzare take. AAP is an opposition party at the centre. Sisodiya is a senior leader of AAP. It makes perfect sense to refer to him as an opposition leader.

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Nit pick. Don't confuse between 'leader of one of the opposition parties' and 'Leader of Opposition[1]' which is an official title. Sisodia is not part of Parliament of India (let alone LoP) so the official title doesn't apply to him. He was/is(?) the excise minister of Delhi state when the 'supposed-liquor-scam' took place, hence the arrest. No idea if the allegations are legit; there are 28 states in India and one of 28 Excise minster is arrested.

[1] https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leader_of_the_Opposition_(In...

Absolutely. Indeed, Manish Sisodia is a 'leader of one of the opposition parties'. But HN does not allow too many characters in the post title hence I tried to add more information in a comment under my post. :)

Then correct the title. He is not an opposition leader, he is the sitting Excise minister in the Delhi State Government.

HN has title length limit so it does not allow adding 'leader of one of the opposition parties' to the title.

Also, Manish Sisodia is Deputy Chief Minister of Delhi, part of AAP, which is a national party of India so I don't think its wrong to use "an opposition leader" for him.

He is not the leader of opposition in any sense of the word. How about changing the title to "Delhi Excise miniter arrested for Liquor scam"?

I never said "leader of opposition", I said "opposition leader".

Manish Sisodia is Deputy Chief Minister of Delhi, part of AAP, which is a national party of India. AAP's candidate got highest number of votes agains Modi in Varanasi election, so I think "opposition leader" term can definitely be used for Manish Sisodia.

And I don't think they have arrested him for alleged Liquor scam. If they start arresting people for alleged scams then Adani and several others are much ahead in line.

> I never said "leader of opposition", I said "opposition leader".

He is in the government, not in opposition. Correct the title

Manish got arrested by BJP Centre Government. Last time I checked, Manish is clearly an opposition to BJP Centre Government even if he is in power in a state/territory. So the title is correct imho.

Title should read: Delhi Excise minister arrested for liquor scam

Did you mean "alleged" scam or court already read the verdict? ;)

Nitpick: Nobody claimed Sisodiya was the LoP.

Opposition leader means that a leader who sits in the opposition. Sisodia is part of Delhi state government so he can't be an opposition leader in Delhi state assembly. He also can't be an opposition leader in the Centre since he is not a parliamentarian.

In my dictionary, Opposition leader means that a leader who belongs to opposition party to the government.

Equally bizarre is OPs submission history. To be considered an opposition party, it should be the second largest party in number of seats in either of the houses. Also, to get formally recognized, it should at least have 10% of house strength. AAP does not meets any of those criterion, hence it does not qualifies as an opposition party, and the guy who got arrested as an opposition leader.

Please see my answer above in reply to your original comment.

First, he is not the "Indian opposition leader", he belongs to a regional party where in he is part of the opposing political party. India, currently does not have an opposition leader by definition. The same opposition leader and other leaders of the regional AAP party has been involved into a lot of misgivings as well, which are not pointed out in your references, some of them proven, some not. Political hitjobs by the ruling party? Maybe. Impeding investigation or attempt to gain mass public support by making last minute highly publicized visits or statements? Maybe.

There is a strong bias in your previous posts and your submissions against the ruling party in India, which has been time and again questioned/ pointed out in your previous submissions. Not that there is anything wrong about it, but again HN may not be the place for political and potentially controversial discussions which can devolve into a flame war.

edit : fixed verbiage.

HN only allows limited number of characters in title, so "Indian opposition leader" is the only best word I could come up with. I have added more information in my top comment right after creating the post.

My posts are about democracy in one of the largest countries of the world. I feel democracy is one of the top area of interest to fellow hackers.

Lastly, AAP is not a regional party. In December 2022, after Gujarat Legislative election, Aam Aadmi Party has fulfilled the criteria for being the 9th national party of India. It is in the middle of the process of getting the official recognition as the National Party by Election commission of India.[1][2]

[1] https://www.telegraphindia.com/india/aap-becomes-indias-9th-...

[2] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_political_parties_in_I...

> To be considered an opposition party, it should be the second largest party in number of seats in either of the houses.

Every party that isn't in government is by definition an opposition party. You're mixing up the criteria for recognition of the LoP of a house with what an opposition party is.

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