Work less, get more done: Analytics for maximizing productivity (2009)
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Would my salary be higher if I become more productive? No. My salary is fixed. I get my bonus even with a minimal effort.
Will I work less if I become more productive? No. I still have to spend 8 hours par day at work.
Will I get more work to do if I become more productive? Yes. As soon as I report something as finished, I get more work. And expectations grow.
Being more productive doesn't benefit me, my coworkers, even my company or the society as a whole. It only leads to more stress and strain.
Then why would I want to be more productive? I'm fine spending my 35-40 hours "working" and making "work" for me and my coworkers as comfortable as possible.
And when I go home, I'm not tired, but refreshed and ready to go on with my life.
EDIT: I'm saying this as actually one of the top performers at my company. It's politics and bullshitting that gets you more money and promotions, not hard work. But that's the game I refuse to play. Instead, I focus on doing the least amount of work I can get away with. Say "Wally" from Dilbert, but without being an asshole.
According to actual data, increased productivity since 1980 didn't result in increasing salaries [1], and since I work for salary, I don't care about increasing my productivity at work if it doesn't directly result in increased compensation.
Personal growth then leads to taking on more responsibilities. Sometimes that leads to a promotion, other times it leads to better job opportunities. Either way, this contributes to salary increases.
as they say "time is money", except that while you can certainly earn more money, there's no earning ownership of your time as a wage worker until you're able to eject yourself entirely from it (whether through retirement, death, or taking your turn as the owner for workers).
I agree with your sentiment but this part is false. Everyone has a boss, even business owners; the boss just becomes the customer instead of a manager. Becoming an owner doesn’t release you.
Yes, you always have choices. Consequences are not very different.
Moving a family of four from one 1700 sq ft house to another is not easy nor cheap, no matter how it's done. Turning down a customer, assuming your business can afford it, is far easier.
On a different topic, people working abroad on crappy visa schemes made their own bed. I'm pretty happy I refused an offer to come to US on some crappy visa many years ago. Fuck that. The sooner system fails, the better.
But for more money.
E.g if being more productive got you a $100k/yr more raise, or a $100k larger bonus, then it’s definitely not selling your time for the same money. If this compounds, like it does nicely in many industries (tech, finance, general “business” of really any kind), then your productivity now is worth real money in the future.
It also feels nice to, ya know, get things done. You don’t have to be an extreme pessimist about the good things you bring to the world because you don’t get 100% of the profit.
And those environments are usually rapidly developing, so same results one year later returns smaller rewards.
Therefore, in some areas, one needs to constantly improve in order to deliver better results over time.
A layman's example: you cannot stagnate as an NBA player because the game constantly evolves and one must be to date with the latest tactics and techniques.
Assuming that the same results will give same rewards over an entire career is waiting to be made redundant by advances in the field.
True advancements are rare and unevenly distributed. Most workplaces are not following the latest trends, but picking the right tools for the job. Contrary to what many believe, software is only becoming more specialized and complex and it makes perfect sense that it would.
Why not?
I mean, I don't subscribe to the mentality (I usually have side projects for my work that have tangibly lead to promotions in the past), but if I were, I'd just use it for more free time.
Half for them, half for me and we're both better off than if I was slower at my work.
I mean it's hackernews after all, we are talking FAANG or startup kind of things not Walmart bag-boy
Industrial Revolution and automation lead to better profit margin returns for owners, not less work for workers
This is the prelude to burnout for lots of people. It’s almost always circumstantial and likely to be a result of decisions made by others, but the point is that making no progress sucks
So from there you can conclude that sometimes people want to make more progress. They want to be a bit more productive sometimes, just to fill our needs for self actualisation a bit.
I agree with your sentiment in the abstract, that it’s not up to workers to just maximize productivity for (really) no gain. Bosses want more output? That’s their problem.
But sometimes just being a bit more productive is good for the mood! And some people have trouble for process reasons rather than external reasons.
Most people have that in at least some aspect of their work and life.
They are working on their own thing (as the person in the post does), their compensation is directly (sales) or indirectly (almost everyone) is tied to it, because they want to see some impact or they simply have pride in their profession and work.
It seems odd to live a life with nothing you want to accomplish with more speed and certainty.
If this is a passive aggressive post about how you wish you were compensated more based on productivity, that is an entirely different challenge for you to sort out
Instead, I chose to optimize other things that make my life actually more enjoyable instead of spending my energy to be more productive at work for the marginal reward to me and benefit to abstract stakeholders.
I spent my 20s with your attitude and now regret it as I see my peers at a level or two above me.
If I'd gunned in my 40hrs and spent my private time chilling instead of slacking in my 40 and then trying to squeeze out 10-15/wk to focus on writing, I'd have been better off in retrospect.
This is highly personal obv, YMMV. But I think your day job should be the one you want to compound your skills in.
Can you invoke Dilbert these days without incurring wrath of people he, apparently, offended? Sadly, I agree and most people seem misunderstand what his strip offered to the office-bound population ( which is the part you mentioned: politics and related bshittery).
I try to be more productive, but it is mostly, because I seem to be stuck on menial and boring stuff so I am forced to be clever and automated.
"a person who is obstinately or unreasonably attached to a belief, opinion, or faction, especially one who is prejudiced against or antagonistic toward a person or people on the basis of their membership of a particular group."
With that language you easily describe a vast majority of US population ( including people who attack that author ) and I am not joking. And that is before we get to the part about whether what he said was 'worthy' of cancellation ( I read his comments and their portrayal in the media seemed, at best, biased ) and why it is so hard for people to separate the artist from their art ( same story with wossname from Harry Potter and ruckus surrounding that game ).
You sure this is the right way going about it? I am asking specifically because the pendulum is starting to swing the other way.
Sure, you can. Just bring it up, and take the risk of people's opinions about you, just like you already do with just about any other thing.
Would you talk about how amazing shark fin soup or foie gras is? Perhaps, but then you might offend people who know and care about how those foods are made. Does that stop you from talking about it? Maybe! Or maybe not! You draw your own lines.
Honestly, it seems to me that the vast majority of people bringing this up are people who implicitly support what Scott Adams says, who are then trying to make sure that no one expresses negative opinions about their hero.
Which is not gonna happen. I like Dilbert, but Scott Adams has gone off the deep end and is saying crap that I strongly disagree with. I'm not going to run around defending him for free, and have made a choice to not read any new content by him. I might make a choice to stop reading and referring to his content in the future. The guy should think carefully before talking, just like the rest of us do.
Can you elaborate on what, exactly, you strongly disagree with? I believe you, but I am curious as to which part, specifically, made you say.. "um, I am not touching that with a 10 foot pole".
<< I'm not going to run around defending him for free, and have made a choice to not read any new content by him. I might make a choice to stop reading and referring to his content in the future.
That is fair and absolutely your right to do as you see fit. Still, what did he do, exactly, to deserve such a treatment?
<< The guy should think carefully before talking, just like the rest of us do.
You accept it as if it was a given. I think it is a ridiculous way to live life. As always, all progress depends on the unreasonable.
No, there is no reason for me to tell you if you don't have an idea already. Maybe he Tweeted about how foie gras is so amazing, and I am an animal lover.
It doesn't really matter; and leads to a ton of unnecessary small arguments which I'd rather avoid being drawn into.
Am I expected to keep track of the entire internet and its comings and goings? While I am aware of the story, clearly my interpretation is different from yours. Is it not a worthwhile endeavor to seek how other people perceive the same even? If not, why not? Or am I already labelled for having dared to defend a person deemed 'bad' by Twitter squad.
There is a reason. One is that I am unable to visit people's minds and hearts, but it is telling that you can't seem to be able to articulate the exact reason you acted this way.
<<Maybe he Tweeted about how foie gras is so amazing, and I am an animal lover.
Maybe. Was that the reason?
<< It doesn't really matter; and leads to a ton of unnecessary small arguments which I'd rather avoid.
edit: removed last paragraph. did not fit what i was trying to say
Not at all! I am inviting you to believe that there is no Twitter "squad". No one is out to get you. You do not need to be afraid of being "labeled", or "canceled", or whatever the latest term is! And you don't need to know what my specific viewpoint on your favorite subject is -- there are tons of people writing about it on the Internet if you are curious!
> it is telling that you can't seem to be able to articulate the exact reason you acted this way.
It isn't, really. In fact, Adams's column here [1] makes my point better than I could! I disagree with his view point on certain matters, and that's just it. That doesn't mean I'm afraid, or ignorant, or that I otherwise want to mark everyone who shares his viewpoints as evil. I'd rather just not talk about it, which is an explicit, and I believe, reasonable choice.
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Funny. Dilbert's creator may feel otherwise.
<< And you don't need to know what my specific viewpoint on your favorite subject is
True, but you decided to enter this conversation. I did not drag you into it and make you an unwilling participant. Your viewpoint helps the conversation along. You are right that is not a requirement. It just helps.
<< It isn't, really. In fact, Adams's column here [1] makes my point better than I could!
Does it though? At best, it is hiding your own views behind those of the author. Worse, I can't seem to tell if I am Bob in this case or not. The selected strip may not be relevant here.
<< I disagree with his view point on certain matters, and that's just it.
You did mention that; you didn't mention one thing you disagree with so far though.
<< That doesn't mean I'm afraid, or ignorant, or that I otherwise want to mark everyone who shares his viewpoints as evil.
It is hard for me categorize your view without knowing what it is. Clever.
You may not be explicitly saying his views are evil, but clearly you don't consider them as neutral given your willingness to distance yourself without stating the reason to distance yourself. I suppose we don't have to label it as anything, but actions tend to speak louder than words.
Are you remote? IMO once you hit a given bar - for some that's enough to not get fired, and others it's maxing out their bonus - you're done. Some days I work 10 hours. Some days I work 3. I'm always available during working hours but that doesn't necessarily mean I'm actively chugging through JIRA tickets or even thinking about work.
I agree with the general thrust of your entire comment but I don't really accept the premise of "I can't be more productive because I have to be here for 8h regardless." Why wouldn't you want to work 5x6 days instead of 5x8 if you could?
I'm 100% with you and that's how I operate as well. However that's not the situation GP seems to be in unfortunately.
> Will I work less if I become more productive? No. I still have to spend 8 hours par day at work.
So in the end, one commonly ends up underutilized, instead of being well rested and happy about how little work they get by with. In my experience, underutilization leads to burnout.
I've been at a few companies where the "top performers" were doing the least amount of work they could get away with. It was a combination of two things:
1) Extreme politicking. They were charismatic, charming, and connected within the company. They were in all the right meetings to take credit for successes and shift blame for failures. They may have connections, like being long-time friends of the CEO, that made them untouchable and targets for flattery/praise from people hoping to climb the ladder. They always insisted that they didn't participate in politics, but then they'd go on to describe something like manipulating the system so they could get the easy, high-profile work and sticking others with the grunt work. Nobody likes to think that they play politics themselves, but that's what it is.
2) Gaming the system. They knew, or even created, the hidden metrics that were used to evaluate employee productivity. For example, one person was busy chatting in Slack every day with short one-line messages. He created a dashboard of Slack activity that ranked employees (where he was always on top by a wide margin) and encouraged his team to be very active in Slack, while the rest of us had no idea. At another company we were secretly evaluated by lines of code committed, so of course the "top performer" was always committing a lot of generated code and constantly "refactoring" other people's code by moving it around to increase their Git activity.
It's a massive red flag when you're at a company and can visibly see that the "top performers" are avoiding work and playing games. It means you can never get ahead by working. This creates a cynical worldview (much like the parent comment) that work isn't about work, it's about gaming the system and extracting cash from the company while minimizing your work. It's really cynical cycle that puts people in a bad position when they leave for well-run companies where good work is actually rewarded.
Don't get stuck in that mindset, because it's tough for some people to escape. If you're at a company where the rewards go to people who game the system while those who work are languishing, you should start searching for a new job.
When I was a little boy and just joined another back office unit, my first assignment from boss was to create a spreadsheet, that basically served as a log of performed work. The boss went out of his way to tell me to hide anything that would give other employees an idea of what is being tracked ( in that case, average cases resolved ). I did with objections that it is not a great metric to begin with and that people are not idiots. I was overruled, but we didn't have to wait long for results. People starting skipping 'hard cases' to up their averages and grabbing 'easy cases'( cuz you know.. during one on ones boss discussed averages without officially disclosing it ). People are not idiots and they quickly figure our what is being rewarded ( or at least not punished ).
It was my first time learning that boss can make stupid decisions too.
You figure out what people don't want to do but needs to be done and you become efficient at it. Through that process you see how other things are tied together and make associations that others have not. You then see what can be linked together which may also join resources. Automate where you can and all that compounds such that you understand where new things can be fully utilized and articulate good / bad changes. This is essentially working smart not hard.
All this puts you in a good spot to make meaningful contributions and changes which makes yourself and everyone else look good. This makes you a team player and "viewed" as essential, for whatever thats worth. You learn the rhythm of the system which then allows you to operate meaningfully. You can take this skill/process anywhere and become a top performer.
The point is to get more life per life :)
But everyone has their way to live life and their own preference coefficients. I don't weight comfort very much, for instance, but you do so highly. And we're all different: when I get more accomplished in the day, I feel more energized and eager to get on my Peloton and (also) hang out with people. When you do more in the day, you are tired.
So, the best I can say is that sometimes people of one type are talking to others of their own type and the answer to your "why?" is "No reason. That's how I choose to live my life. You don't have to do this if you're not this type".
It's no different from someone posting "If you want to jump start your battery, connect these leads to those terminals" and someone responding "Why? I would just call Geico and get them to send someone out". The answer to that "why?" is "You're not the audience. Skip it and go read something else".
I always wanted to be a contract engineer but over time it became clear that the legal requirements and state incentives were stacked against it. There were a few legal rulings that substantially increased the legal risk of employing contract labor directly and now most companies prefer to work through middlemen who capture a huge chunk of contractors salary. These Middle Men add basically no value to either party aside from legal deniability. Most attractive companies have stringent requirements on independent contractors in my field requiring that they have multiple sources of income.
Why would you doing more work for your company for the same pay not benefit your company?
It also seems to me that while increased productivity decreases the time you spend on a task, it doesn't necessarily require you to notify people immediately when you're done or dictate what you do with the time saved. It might be more slack. It might be something else you can do to make your job easier. It might examining the art of productive politics and bullshitting. It might be learning something work relevant you find more fun...
That said, far be it from me to alter any balance you're already content with. If productivity is for anything at all, it should include satisfaction.
If it doesn’t align with the deadline, the EM can then add other teammates to help balance the work or assign the entire project to someone else.
It’s a myth that these companies push you to burn out, it’s just we’re bad at estimating our own commitments. So a good EM will also take your deadline and add buffers to it when delivering their own schedule upwards.
The benefit to being more productive isn’t always about packing more work into a day. It’s also a skill to improve the amount of time you’re not working by giving you more free time.
You need to work somewhere else. Politics is everywhere, but it is not the only thing that matters at many companies. Competence and productivity matter too.
Absolutely yes!
Striving to maximize productivity should be a core value for anyone that works. We should always be looking to improve and to make things more efficient. This is a core value of capitalism that people seem to forget. We should want to make things continuously better.
Instead there’s this nihilistic take that anything like that is pointless and doesn’t pay off. The accomplishment of something great, the self improvement, should be considered a pay off in and of itself.
Doing the least amount of work to get away just brings everyone down. Why strive for better if mediocre pays the bills?
If you're in a work environment that reward merit and pays for higher productivity, the problem is with the place and you should move if your conditions permit. It's not an excuse to do the bare minimum and not strive to improve.
It’s easy to see how there’s an excuse to do the bare minimum when the company is paying you the bare minimum they are able to. The exploitation began with the capital rich employer paying the employee less than their worth.
That's really not one of the core values of capitalism. But if we're talking about it, one of the core values of capitalism is self-interest, when people act in pursuit of their own good. Doing the bare minimum is peak capitalism. You need to minimize effort while maximizing gains. This is what companies are doing and it's something both 'the market' and society is totally fine with. But if you're an employee trying to apply the same principles in their context, all of a sudden, it's breaking social norms.
> We should want to make things continuously better.
Better in what way and for whom? A relaxed employee has more time to spend with family and also spend more money (which is a 'core value' of market capitalism).
When I was running startups a decade ago I would regularly ask devs not to work so many hours. Grind culture was a thing, and it made our code much worse. The effect of lack of sleep and a shitty work/life balance is abundantly obvious in a PR.
It is high time more bosses understood this
At my first job I was the second contributor to a project which didn’t do PRs. If it worked, just push it. My present process is a bit more involved!
"A good night's sleep is the best debugging tool"
The combination of long hours, daily stimulants, and minimal planning can make for some very fast MVPs, and that’s about it. Any time I’ve been in a position where I’m burning the midnight oil to make a deadline, I’ve always looked back at the code with great regret. The “fuck it, ship it” mentality makes for some really crappy software, it’s nice that most people are coming around to this.
[1] https://www.atlassian.com/devops/frameworks/devops-metrics
I think, given the right culture, other measures might work well. Not perhaps for a bonus structure, but for helping employees honestly evaluate how they're doing.
... and devolve into (actually measurable) number of hours in the chair.
When you combine these things you can end up in a situation where.
Person A worked 5 hours and 80% of their work was useful = 4 units Person B worked 50 hours and 10% of their work was useful = 5 units
Which one is correct depends on the goal. Is the goal efficiency or useful output?
Which is correct depends on who's paying. If you're a startup you want lots of Person A. If you're a consultancy you want lots of Person B.
Working on easy or routine problems for 40 hours per week is torture to me. The ratio between my productivity extremes can be most conveniently described as "infinite".
If you want to know the root cause of the 10x, 100x, whateverx developer, this is almost certainly it. Someone was likely inspired to work on a super hard thing and just kept going. They don't have some weird genetic defect or unfair educational advantage.
Brilliant
The task for each worker in the industrial age was to discover how to do his job better: that’s productivity. Frederick Taylor revolutionized industry by using his scientific method to optimize mechanical work. But in the network economy, where machines do most of the inhumane work of manufacturing, the question for each worker is not “How do I do this job right?” but “What is the right job to do?”
Answering this question is, of course, extremely hard to do. It’s called an executive function. In the past, only the top 10% of the workforce was expected to make such decisions. Now, everyone, not just executives, must decide what is the right next thing to do.
"Or even better, work more and get even MORE done!" - your boss
https://trends.google.com/trends/explore?date=all&geo=US&q=m...
And it is in line with the earlier, non-internet definition of "an element of a culture or system of behavior passed from one individual to another by imitation or other nongenetic means." (There's another definition related to funny things being repeated, as opposed to behavior).
> Productivity Technique #1: Outsource.
Aka “delegate”.
> Productivity Technique #2: Automate Your Processes.
> Productivity Technique #3: Eliminate Unproductive Uses of Time.
Nothing unusual here, except maybe for the conclusion:
> Worker Smarter, Not Harder. Then Go Home.