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She got exactly what she deserved. The only sad parts of this:

- She VERY obviously didn't learn her lesson. See her tweets after the layoff.

- The insane number of people responding with positive encouragement for "how hard [she] worked" and how it sets a good example. What a fucking travesty of a work culture some people have.

VALUE YOUR OWN TIME PEOPLE. All she did was help Elon attempt to recover a stupid business decision, and her reward was being sent back into the job market to do the same thing for some other billionaire in the future. This is the TEXTBOOK definition of being taken advantage of, combined with some astonishing stockholm syndrome.

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> She VERY obviously didn't learn her lesson. See her tweets after the layoff.

Meh. She's saving face. Very high chance she feels like an absolute idiot on the inside but admitting as much doesn't help her maintain social media cred.

That doesn't necessarily mean she learned her lesson. She may go so deep into denying the mistake that she ends up doing it again just to prove that she was right.

Based on how fervently she's defending herself, that seems likely to me.

But yes you're absolutely right that there was no chance she was going to actually admit it was a bad idea for her to commit like this. People don't like admitting that stuff and will do whatever they can to avoid it.

Or choice-supportive bias.

> VALUE YOUR OWN TIME PEOPLE.

I find this lack of empathy disturbing. What if this person values the time they spend on making twitter better? It's quite likely that there are people that enjoy their job so much they are willing to prioritize it over most other things.

> > VALUE YOUR OWN TIME PEOPLE.

> I find this lack of empathy disturbing. What if this person values the time they spend on making twitter better? It's quite likely that there are people that enjoy their job so much they are willing to prioritize it over most other things.

There are also people that enjoy drugs so much they are willing to prioritise them over most other things. It's hard to know at which point fun turns into pathology.

Yeah, and similarly, the thing to do is to sneer at them from your moral high ground.

> What if this person values the time they spend on making twitter better?

1. How has Twitter has gotten better?

2. What does making Twitter have to do with sleeping in the office and boasting about it?

I agree some of the comments against this person are overly harsh, and that I have seen people that take great pride in their work for its own sake and are willing to go that extra mile to do good work. That said:

1. The need to even sleep at the office in the first place was solely as a result of Musk's "chaos management". He dug the hole, and it is true that at the end of the day the only folks benefitting from her going the extra mile are Musk and Twitter investors/shareholders.

2. Wanting to do great work is one thing - sleeping at the office, though, clearly means that you are sacrificing other parts of your life, like your family, friends, health and hobbies, and putting work above all else.

As someone who used to be a workaholic, I can sympathize with Ms. Crawford. I can certainly look back at my work history and be proud of the times I worked hard to get a good result. But I also have plenty of regrets about working just for the sake of working/my identity, without really thinking critically about where I was spending my time.

Exactly. I've also worked at plenty of projects that I really cared about and eagerly went the extrs mile. I sometimes worked in the evening or even the weekend. I've even stopped freelancing and took a massive pay cut to become an employee to stay at a project I wasn't ready to leave yet.

But I always slept in my own bed. My extra work was mostly from home. The one bad idea was the massive pay cut, and that was a temporary situation (that I justified by considering it an investment to get more experience in a leadership role).

I don't naturally tend towards workaholism (unlike my wife), but when a job is sufficiently interesting and engaging, I do put in extra work, but it also makes me wary that I shouldn't mske that the new standard; it's always an exception.

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