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It's amazing that "being two months out of date" in AI means that you are already a dinosaur

For real! This stuff is moving fast. It feels like just last week I was posting about how it's going to change...art. And now there are hilarious deepfake memes of past and current presidents shit talking about video games.

There are a handful of ML art subs that have pretty amazing stuff daily. Especially the NSFW ones, which if you've studied any history of media VHS/DVD/Blu-ray/the internet, porn is a major innovation driver because humans are thirsty creatures.

What are some niche ML art subs to hang around in? Excepting the NSFW..

I don't know about niche, but MachineLearning and StableDiffusion are the only SFW ones.

FWIW, the NSFW ones are unstable_diffusion, sdforall, sdnsfw, aipornhub

Oh yes, that part worths a lot...

Yeah, it used to be I'd set Google results to just one year back, now I'm having to set it to one month.

Can you explain what you do that for?

Avoiding out of date advice, also filtering just for newest trends and techniques

Can you recommend any interesting ones?

> porn is a major innovation driver because humans are thirsty creatures.

Hehe, yeah. I'm personally waiting for a model that is good at nonhuman stuff. Not just furries... but the focus seems to be on human content for now.

train the porn model you want to see in the world

not enough funds or training data for that to be economical at the moment :(

Yeah that's definitely one thing it'll be great at, fantasy themed porn. For me furry stuff, but yeah for others whatever their tastes are.

Atm someone has to model, rig, texture, animate etc. Hopefully shortly we can just connect a bunch of systems together to generate video right from a prompt.

Useful for non-porn stuff as well, but the OP is right; lots of innovation occurs when humans are horny (porn) or angry (war).

I scan the SD subreddit and am subscribed to 3 big ai art youtubes just to stay up to date. With things moving this fast, alot of info is out of date and can be very burdensome to comb through the good stuff later. I try and set aside 30mins twice a week to apply the new techniques to help cement them in my mind and see their strengths and weaknesses. ControlNET really changed the game and now OffsetNoise (check out the IlluminatiDiffusion model) is now really pushing SD passed midjourney for real artistic control of your output.

What are the youtubers?

https://youtube.com/@Aitrepreneur

https://youtube.com/@OlivioSarikas

https://youtube.com/@sebastiankamph

ControlNet became popular with in the last couple of weeks and LoRA fine-tuning slightly before that and both things have completely changed the landscape too. Even a month out of date and you are a dinosaur at the moment.

These things are advancing way faster than they're being taken advantage of fully. Even SD 1.4 with months-old technology can produce far higher quality images than most of what's seen from midjourney or the latest tools. Things like ControlNet are amazing, to be sure, but there's nothing "dinosauric" about the technology without it. We haven't begun to see the limits of what's possible yet with existing tools, though you're right about the rapid pace of innovation.

Make it two weeks. I haven't paid attention for a second and stuff like Controlnet pops up and evolves into Multi-Controlnet and then into MultiDiffusion.

> and evolves into Multi-Controlnet and then into MultiDiffusion

What the?

*googles multi-controlnet"

Wow. These diffusion models are like weeping angels. You really can't take your eyes off of them for long.

That's what the singularity is all about, a moment in time when 2 seconds late turns you into a dinosaur, be greatful it's 2 months, not 2 weeks, 2 days, or 2 minutes.

The AI utopia seems to be evolving into just a new rat race. I'm obsolete before I can think about it.

The fun part of an S-curve looks exponential when you're on it.

Besides HN, what other venues are popular for staying current on this topic?

if you hang out in reddit.com/r/stablediffusion you'll always be up to date

Thanks, what about broader news (GPT, Bing, Llama, etc)? The Stable Diffusion sub is only image AI oriented.

Twitter. Folllow your top 10 or so ML/AI news summarizers. There is enough new information every day to keep you busy reading new papers, APIs, technologies.

Honestly the "This happened in the last week" is more information than anybody can fully wrap their heads around, so you just have to surf the headlines and dig into the few things that interest you.

Can you recommend some accounts to follow?

The great thing about the AI world - is everything diffuses out quickly on the "For You" timeline - and then you can add people that you are interested in (which reinforces your interest in AI).

Some bootstrapping accounts might be @rosstaylor90, @rasbt, @karpathy, @ID_AA_Carmack, @DrJimFan, @YiTayML, @JeffDean, @dustinvtran, @tunguz, @fchollet, @ylecun, @miramurati, @nonmayorpete, @pmarca, @sama.

These are definitely not an authoritative list - just some of the AI names I follow - but, honestly - if any relevant news breaks - your timeline picks it up within minutes - so you just need a good random sample. Your interests will diverge and you'll pick up your own follows pretty quickly.

I started /r/aigamedev as a subreddit to keep up to date on generative AI technologies, with a focus on the tech and workflows for gamedev. Its largely my own interest links as I research for work and personal, but its growing, and fluff free (so far).

Youtube

Agriculture reduced the global human economy/resource production doubling time from 100,000s of years to 1000s of years. Industrial revolution dropped it from 1000s to 10s or even 1s. If AI follows the same path it becomes 0.1 - 0.01 years.

Your 401k wouldn't need 40 years to build a comfortable retirement, only 4 weeks.

Assuming the supply of labor or automation sufficient to provide a “comfortable retirement” also takes 4 weeks to come online.

I understand you’re joking, but surely it’s asymptotic to some multiple of human gestational periods.

Not once the A in AI becomes a (or the) critical creative factor.

This was not a joke. It's a serious concept that's been around for several years.

I just watched a video that convincingly showed that it is energy and energy alone that determines the production growth of humanity. Until the day AI can "generate" stuff (you know, something out of nothing) it can only at best streamline existing production, which is entirely capped by energy limits.

We may drown in oceans of audio, video, novels, poems, films, porn, blue prints, chemical formulas, etc. dreamed up by AI, but to realize these designs, blueprints, formulas, drugs, etc. ("production") we need to actually resource the materials, and have the necessary energy to make it happen.

It will not be AI that catapults humanity. It can definitely mutate human society (for +/-) but it will not (and can not) result in any utopian outcomes, alone. But something like cold fusion, if it actually becomes a practical matter, would result in productivity that would dwarf anything that came before (modulo material resource requirements).

Couldn't the AI invent fusion?

Has it?

It could imagine fusion really well, but inventing working fusion doesn't appear to rely on "intelligence". "Intelligence" ain't "omnipotence".

Care to give a link to that video?

https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=34982415

> Your 401k wouldn't need 40 years to build a comfortable retirement, only 4 weeks.

If this is true you can pretty much say goodbye to the concept of money. The inflation this brings about will be legendary

One week of change in 2023 is like a month's worth of progress in previous years.

Edit: typo and clarity.

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