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I don't like this line of thought because people and nations are not perfectly logical. People and nations sabotage and act against their own best interests all the time for dick measuring reasons. It still comes down to fallible humans making the decisions.

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So, we make up whatever narrative we want that aligns with our existing biases even when it makes no sense?

We don't make anything up. We try to stick to facts rather than psychoanalyze fallible, impulsive, irrational humans.

The facts are that the two countries that stand to gain the most from blowing up the pipeline are the Ukraine and the United States. Russia has very little to gain.

The facts are that your account is 81 days old and you say, "the Ukraine". Given these facts someone might conclude that you're a shill. You could be, but it doesn't necessarily follow.

This is an unhinged reply. Also people say "the Ukraine", so? And what would I be shilling? I'd suggest common sense, but the terminally online seem hungry for war and global conflict these days so they all seem to be checking that at the door.

Facts like these?

> It must be some Russian separatist groups in Ukraine pretending to be pro-Ukraine had sabotaged the pipelines. We are in the midst of another disinformation campaign by Russia.

You mean like a pro Ukrainian group blowing up the pipeline and risking losing western partners?

In general, I agree! But there's limits. We can't even come up with a stupid thing that Putin would have believed, for this to make sense on his own terms.

Then there's the question of capability. We're supposed to believe they do extremely stupid things, but also do it with such superhuman competence that we don't have a clue afterwards.

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