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Monero founder outed as Interpol informant

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This asking GPT for inference needs to stop immediately before it becomes accepted and commonplace. This is almost the same as "I flipped a coin and the gods spoke to me"

It's far worse, because people who should know better, people who should understand at least the very basics of how the underlying algorithm works, are deluding themselves into believing it's some kind of magical oracle.

It really isn't that far removed from the "anonymous sources" journalists cite or the slander levied on political undesirables at Wikipedia.

Tangentially, I think there is essentially already the beginnings of a cult of AI, based around the promise of technological salvation from worldly toil with somewhat eschatological undertones.

Just waiting for "Show HN: Repent, sell your house and car, invest everything into eternal-salvation.ai before it's too late and you're left in the dust as we ascend to the stars!"

I was curious until he started getting into technophrenology by "asking" ChatGPT for answers on why. He also does not explain how the asset tracing is even possible. Somehow, I trust the league of established papers on Monero weaknesses (none of which have successfully been used) than this.

Looks like we are going to see this kind of investigations "asking GPT-4" to confirm or not assumptions just like we had "after a quick search on Google" for a few lusters.

There's a new oracle in Delphi.

And it's huffing gas.

What does one gift as tribute to the Oracle at Silicon Valley?

Bitcoins

"outed as Interpol informant"? Really?

No idea who this guy is but if I was in his situation I would also do the same. Accusing him of being an informant over this seems a bit extreme. It is a well known fact that various law enforcement/intelligence agencies will try to establish ties with people in such positions.

Response: https://twitter.com/fluffypony/status/1638396003790249985

> The accusations of a known scammer are clearly nonsensical and should not need refuting.

Spagni stole money from a company, presumably to fund his crypto investments.

The point of cryptocurrencies is that it doesn't matter how sketchy the founder is or how stupid there motives were. The ledger isn't under their control.

It isn't all that unexpected that the Monero founder is weird and has a colourful backstory. He'd have to be odd to found a project like Monero. It is darkly funny if he was then trying to leverage his leadership position to directly scam people though.

He stole money. I don't find that very colorful or weird. It's criminal. Why should such a person be given a US visa? [0]

[0] https://www.coindesk.com/business/2021/09/22/riccardo-fluffy...

>Monero founder

Is he a founder? My understanding was that he became a supporter of Monero years after it was created by someone else.

This was also my understanding. I think he became some kind of leader in the Monero community at some point, but he isn't the founder. I think Monero was originally forked from some other project (Bytecoin?).

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