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There seems to be a Google Chrome extension called "iCloud Passwords" but it only has two stars, so I don't think you'll be positively surprised.

Also, on iPhone it's ok-ish but on Mac the experience is a subpar too: Keychain, the app you use to view your passwords, feels like a 90s Visual Basic application. Plus you can't organize your accounts, and even if you prefix them to "sort by name", the special name you give is lost after using it.

On the other hand, I already have other Apple cloud stuff and kinda trust them, so I suffer through it. And other password managers aren't anything to write home about either to make me change :/

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Note that macOS now has three “apps” to view your passwords, three different UIs for the same database. There’s Keychain Access, there’s the Passwords section of System Settings, and there’s the Passwords section of Safari preferences (which is the same UI as the pre-Ventura System Preferences app’s Passwords section).

The other two have even less organization functionality than Keychain Access, so this probably doesn’t help you, but the blog post was talking about the System Settings version so I wanted to point it out.

> Keychain, the app you use to view your passwords

Huh, I never realised Keychain showed iCloud Passwords. I always just use Safari (which is inconvenient in its own way admittedly).

+1 to subpar on Mac. iPhone is about the only surface where its seamless/smooth. The rest leaves me constantly frustrated.

What's wrong with Keychain Access? It hasn't changed its appearance since more than a decade. That's a good thing for familiarity. Early Mac OS X apps have incredibly good design that doesn't waste space.

Guess which app is ripe for a Swift UI redesign soon!

But it does waste a lot of space... there's a lot of duplication of keys (which are deduplicated in the iPhone app), and with other information (somehow I have hundreds of "com.apple.cloudd.deviceIdentifier.Production" in there). And I already mentioned organization fails. Plus it's kinda insecure as it enumerates your accounts exhaustively without asking for a password like iPhone/Safari (granted, not a problem specific to this app). And the interface to view the passwords is terrible. Old and familiar is not synonyms with "good".

However now that comex pointed me to the Password in the "System Settings" app, I at least can use it and it's fine if Keychain is left as is.

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