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If they are the same, why hasn't Google been banned in Italy all these years?

There must be something fundamentally different between the two, and I'm not sure what it is.

Google has been fined several times already, and at least try to pretend they care about this. At the very least their cookie banners now have a reject button, they delete user data, and there have been some other changes.

A rather fundamental difference is that Google is relatively GDPR compliant because it deletes PII within 30 days. OpenAI has this data be baked into the model and if it turns out to surface out from there, it's unclear how they would delete it.

They wouldn't be able to. This conflict will explode because an unstoppable force (EU bureaucrazy) will meet an unmovable object (the GPT weights, where you cannot just surgically remove individual facts.)

If I could short LLMs in Europe, I would go all in.

OpenAI is not complying with GDPR regulations and has failed to provide the Italian government with information needed to comply with the regulations. It has 20 days to comply. I find that this should be the norm for this kind of services. Otherwise it is just Far West in the name of progress and the benefit of few.

Don't you think the users of ChatGPT (et al.) also benefit substantially from using it? Hardly "the few", it's free to use!

Practically everyone is talking about and using ChatGPT. I can't visit a bar without hearing almost everyone talking about it. It's everywhere in public transport. People are talking about it in dance clubs. People are talking about it at the post office. Grandmas at the convenience store are talking about it.

It's "the few" who are not taking advantage of it.

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