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>Sure I see race, I just don't see a good reason to judge people differently based on their race.

I don't believe you. I don't know if you're lying to me or yourself, but you have racial bias (we all do).

> Policies that treat people differently based on the color of their skin (something that is foundational to the entire framework of DEI initiatives) is a bad idea.

Sure! We already have a socioeconomic system that treats people differently based on the color of the their skin. That's reality. It's not DEI thats the problem, its racists.

>White neoliberals control most levers of power in society.

This true, but I'm guessing you don't really understand that neoliberalism is just another word for conservative. Neoliberals hate DEI.

>Judging people by the color of their skin is racism, and DEI seeks to institutionalize those racist policies. I do not support institutionalized racism regardless of the target, and I would hope more people begin to see the idiocy in doing so. All it does is breed resentment, divisiveness and racial animosity.

LMAO bruh, judging people by the color of their skin was institutionalized 150 before DEI was ever thought of. The United States had FUCKING SLAVES based on the color the skin. Stop being a racist shit. Its been less than 50 years since the federal government *had to outlaw racial segregation because racist ass racists wanted racial segregation*. Quit your horseshit bud. There is still time for you to heal.

  > We already have a socioeconomic system that treats people differently based on the color of the their skin.

No we don't. We have a socioeconomic system that treats people differently based on their class. There are many thousands of black millionaires in the country and a few black billionaires as well. Meanwhile, show me how some poor schlep in a trailer park or in the backwoods of Appalachia with no running water or electricity is being benefited by the color of his skin. No education, generational poverty, no opportunities but he's got that magical lack of melanin so it's all good? lolwut

The math doesn't back you up. The majority of poor people in the country are white. And if you want to look at the per capita rates of poverty, then you have to deal with that fact that asians outperform whites in every category per capita. So the whole idea that whites are outperforming everyone due to some inherent white supremacy built into the system is demonstrably false.

  > This true, but I'm guessing you don't really understand that neoliberalism is just another word for conservative. Neoliberals hate DEI.

Not quite, the majority of Democrats and Republicans have a neoliberal worldview. The people on the left and right in the US who don't have a neoliberal worldview are a tiny minority. Joe Biden and Donald Trump are both neoliberals. So was Obama and Bush. To find US politicians that aren't neoliberals you have to look to Bernie (who isn't even a member of the Democratic Party) and maybe a few others on the left. On the right, probably the closest you can get now is Rand Paul who is Libertarian-Lite. Maybe Justin Amash is a better example when he was in office, but he got chased out of the Republican Party. You also had Tulsi Gabbard who espoused non-neo-liberal views from the Democratic Party but she was chased out of the party for it too. There are maybe a few others I'm forgetting but there are very few non-neolibs in office in the US.

This is why you have Wall Street which is a Republican stronghold, fully embracing DEI. DEI fits nicely within the racially divisive neoliberal worldview.

  > LMAO bruh, judging people by the color of their skin was institutionalized 150 before DEI was ever thought of. The United States had FUCKING SLAVES based on the color the skin. Stop being a racist shit. Its been less than 50 years since the federal government *had to outlaw racial segregation because racist ass racists wanted racial segregation*.

So you're trying to convince me that racially discriminatory policies like most DEI initiatives are a good thing by giving me all of the historical examples of why racial discrimination is a bad thing?

Uh, thanks for making my case for me bruh.

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