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> because it doesn't work like this either in the car industry or in the bike industry

This is... not entirely true, there's heaps of standardized components in both industries. Think batteries, brake pads / brakes, springs, all the nuts and bolts, the OBD port, tires/wheels, airbags / seatbelts, and on the bike side, think cables, saddles (saddle pins), tires/wheels again, gears, pedals, etc etc.

While you probably can't fully repair one car with the other, there's plenty that has been standardized by the industry and legislation.

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Yeah but there are several standards for each component. Like for bikes (which I understand more) there are the 622mm wheels (700c - 28" but also 29" which is confusingly the same rim diameter but wider rim), 635mm wheels, and then 26", 27.5", 24", 20" and some smaller ones. Not sure what size wheels are used on fat bikes... And then you have QR axles and thru-axles in 100mm, 130mm, 135mm, 142mm and 148mm sizes and some other and usually 15mm or 12mm diameters (except the QRs that are 5 or 9mm). Equipped with either rim or disc brakes, for each brake type the rear (and sometimes front too) axle size will probably be different. Then the rear wheel has a freewheel on which the cassette is fastened unless you use a internal gear hub (like Rohloff).. so the freewheel is one of I think 2-3 different Sram types, 2-3 Shimano ones, 1-2 Campagnolo and maybe some other. And so on. So there are certainly standards. Lots of them.

Many standards would be fine (and to be clear, very much needed). They just would need to be open so that a third party manufacturer can build a motor or a battery that they can just plug in to the system.

Yes that would be great, but instead what is happenning is that with each new electronic component the system is closed down further. With the increasing popularity of wireless shifting (Di2/eTap) and e-bikes this will only get worse I'm afraid. I don't even know if we can realistically hope for some sensible regulation.

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