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More and more people nowadays are programming at high levels of abstraction. If you're designing the frontend of a website, or making a mobile game, or developing a stock trading algorithm, or whatever else, then you probably don't want to constantly worry about details of memory management...

On top of this, GC is necessary for some algorithms. Any data structure with partial sharing (e.g. binary search tree with versioning via path-copying) needs GC to be space-efficient. You could either rely on a built-in GC, or write your own. If you write your own, I think you'll find that it is tedious and error-prone due to memory safety issues.

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We could already be doing that during the 1980's had it not been for UNIX getting out of Bell Labs with source tapes, and bad management decisions.

https://interlisp.org/

http://toastytech.com/guis/cedar.html

"Eric Bier Demonstrates Cedar"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_dt7NG38V4&t=2s

"Making Smalltalk"

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaOMiNku1_M

http://www.edm2.com/index.php/VisualAge_Smalltalk

Also there is to note that most BASIC implementations had support for automatic memory management, at least for strings and arrays, the structured compiled dialects even better.

Also database programming with languages like Clipper and FoxPro.

And even if we stay in the UNIX world, that is exactly using stuff like Perl also allowed for, C like programming without the headaches of manual memory management.

Or the brief fad of 4GL languages.

> then you probably don't want to constantly worry about details of memory management...

Oh, you actually don't have to, that's the whole point... in the past, you (effectively) had a choice between careful manual management of memory and garbage collection with its overheads. These days, you can use constructs which take care of that management for you, with very little or no overhead, which don't involve garbage.

It's true that sometimes GC is algorithmically necessary; but then the high-level-of-abstraction argument is irrelevant. And in those cases, a GC library does indeed come in useful. You don't need to write your own, others have likely done it already.

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