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>It is like linux if Canonical never happened,

Really? from what I read BSD complaints they hate RedHat related stuff like systemd and GNOME code was Linux only for w hile, not sure if this was fixed in GJPME or downstream.

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Canonical adopting systemd is what made it a standard, community went from being very divided on systemd to resigned and accepting it almost overnight after Canonical announced they were going systemd. This is a fairly common trend, they have a fair amount of influence although that seems to be waning after their push for snap.

Canonical only settled on systemd when Debian decided to adopt it, though.

That is nice historical revisionism, considering Canonical was all in on upstart.

No, the parent you are replying to meant that Canonical only gave up on upstart and accepted defeat (and thus went with systemd) when Debian made that decision.

Correct - that was what I meant. I remember the init system debates all too well.

Dude, that is historical true, Upstart was there before systemd , Redhat used upstart too. Then an RH dev created systemd and Arch,Fedora,Debian moved to systemd , Ubuntu followed Debian decision since Ubuntu is based on Debian and they share maintainers/developers.

Ubuntu held out for quite a bit with upstart, but.

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