Hacker News Reader

Comment by vasco | Hacker News Reader

The war in Ukraine started in 2014.

This is a form of pedantry that people consider insufferable. The reason is because everyone is well aware that the Ukraine was in conflict with russia since 2014, and even before really. Imagine your irritation at someone pointing that out, when you already know it also. We are all comfortable calling the recent full scale invasion "The war".

Before 2022 it was annexation and supplying separatists in Donbas. And sending some special ops. It was a conflict, but not

The same way Europe is in conflict with Russia now - we send supplies and all the support we can do without starting an actual war.

I love in Poland, spoke with many Ukrainians, and these seem to be commonly accepted definitions.

> Before 2022 it was annexation and supplying separatists in Donbas.

Invasion, occupation, and annexation of a large part of another country is war by every measure, even ignoring Donbas.

If it were, we would be saying that WWII started in 1938, not 1939

This is more inflammatory than it is informative.

How so? Inflammatory would mean it's either irrelevant, unfair or harmful in some way. Stating a correction to a fact is hardly either.

If someone stated that the attack on Pearl Harbor happened in 1945 and someone else corrected them that it happened in 1941, is that inflammatory?

Edit: Maybe you're referring to it being called a "war" in the first place is inflammatory? I'd give you that, and we'd be better off calling it a conflict as none of the parties formally declared war, but then we start veering into semantics instead...

The parent commenter is correct. You're the one mistaken.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Russo-Ukrainian_War

that goes against the narrative

Reply on news.ycombinator.com