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> But there are millions of people using 1Password now, often in cool and innovative

It's a password manager, what's "cool" about it?

1Pwd always rubbed me the wrong way in the way they "take themselves too seriously" and overrate their importance

It's a password manager. They wouldn't even sync to cloud at first iirc, no?

The more boring the better

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They're headed the way of Dropbox. As Steve Jobs famously said to Dropbox when trying to purchase them: You don't have a product, you have a feature.

For Dropbox it took way longer to get to that point than anyone expected, but Microsoft, Apple, and Google have all copied the Dropbox feature. 1Password is headed in the same direction and Apple is leading the pack in making it redundant. If the password section of Settings in macOS gets a separate app and a way to share passwords, 1P will end up in the same tough spot as Dropbox.

I am eagerly anticipating the release of the Apple Passwords App. However, initially limiting it to Apple devices alone would not be practical for most users who require password sharing capabilities.

This is similar to the case of iMessage vs WhatsApp, where the lack of a Windows/Android App for iMessage renders it unused by my friends and unpopular in regions where Android phones are prevalent.

There is actually an iCloud Passwords app for Windows already.

You can use it for a lot more than just passwords, which IMO is what makes it stand apart from Bitwarden. You can store notes, credit cards, photocopies of IDs, software licenses, key pairs, etc. You get 1GB of storage. They really have turned it into a "vault" for anything digital.

Fairly sure Bitwarden has done all that for some time. Having had to use both at work, I can't see any killer features that 1Password has in my use case and there are various small things that slow me down when using it.

I've been using Bitwarden for several years and I really like it. However, I do wish it had a few more item "types". Not everything fits into the ["Login", "Card", "Identity", "Secure Note"] array.

1password only has ["Driver Licenses", "Software Licenses", "Documents"] as additional types. "Documents" seems to be doing the heavy lifting, as the others are either a form of "Identity" or "Secure Note".

You can store anything you want in it, as long as you are ok with seeing just the first 15 or so characters of the name you give it. Because the column that contains the contents of the vault is thin and non-resizable. Probably because they didn’t have telemetry so they didn’t know.

> thin and non-resizable

I just checked and this works fine on macOS

The website, not the app, which I assume you’re referring to.

Was referring to the app yeah, I don't use the website.

It's resizable for me.

> which IMO is what makes it stand apart from Bitwarden. You can store notes, credit cards, photocopies of IDs, software licenses, key pairs, etc.

How is that any different than Bitwarden?

Bitwarden only has a few types by default. Are there ways to add other types? Perhaps I am just not aware. I only use Bitwarden for a few things.

Bitwarden's support for images attachments is completely useless. You can't view images - the only option is to download them to your Downloads folder, and then you have to remember to delete them and empty your trash.

Same with Bitwarden or Keepass, it's certainly not unique to 1password.

1Password is one of the best products I've ever used and removed tons of friction from my life when I switched from KeePass. It's a fantastic, exciting product.

...which is why this decision is extra infuriating.

What was your usecase that you were unsatisfied with keepass?

Wanting a good UI, easily setting up new devices, habing the same password manager as my coworkers

I agree in principle. Password managers should follow the KISS principle to extremes for the sake of security.

I’ve tried to get bitwarden in the enterprise but my boss is old school and has denied the request 4 years running.

Even after they added oauth and account switching to switch between personal and ent vaults.

Re:cool: it's corpo speak for "what the fuck are the users doing", and then realizing that they can build a product around that, turning it into profit.

As a business, if you don't realize situations like this, you both leave money on the table, and also risk users leaving for another product, which offers the missing functionality explicitly.

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