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Very exciting. I was already looking forward to the Phoenix APUs making it into handhelds, but these chips seem even more apt for that purpose.

There's some buzz about these being in the next Nintendo handheld[1].

AMD has the mobile and console markets cornered. I do wish it had more competition, though. NVIDIA is effectively dead in this segment. Apple has a great chipset, yet seems asleep at the wheel when it comes to gaming. Or at least not interested in being a real competitor outside of their walled garden.

[1]: https://teddit.net/comments/12yncdm

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>Apple has a great chipset, yet seems asleep at the wheel when it comes to gaming.

These comments never fail to amuse me when Apple is one of the most successful gaming companies in the world by revenue. The walled garden pays well.

Revenue doesn't matter. It's not a real competitor to NVIDIA or AMD for consumers until it can run most non-casual / AAA titles _well_, and can dip into the huge PC back catalog. Gaming on macOS is still severely limited.

Apple definitely has the most successful gaming platform of all time. Hard to say they’re asleep at the wheel.

Not when compared against PlayStation and Nintendo offerings.

Apple earns more from gaming than Nintendo.

Numbers to share?

Microsoft Windows is a very successful gaming platform as the NT kernel has over 25 years of game sales.

Apple cares more about their stockholders than consumers.

When most people mention gaming on Apple, they're probably talking about full AAA games on their Macs, not candy crusher clone #9001 on their iPhone.

They are talking about Infinity Blade (still nothing comparable on the Web for a 2010 title), and plenty of others that came after it.

https://www.reddit.com/r/iosgaming/comments/t1iqlh/a_list_of...

Apple is more of a gambling company than a gaming company

In that sense android is the worlds biggest gaming platform. Mobile gaming isn't real gaming, sorry.

Who cares about a few thousand whales buying gems for awful games? They don't care about the gaming market that's actually interested in interesting and actually fun things. Perhaps they don't care because the whales give so much...

On the topic of mobile graphics competition: If intel doesn't decide to completely kill their AXG division, the future of their integrated graphics chips looks pretty bright with the Adamantine Cache[0].

Of course, nothing specific is known yet, but there are hopes that the massively increased GPU cache could help them catch up to the RDNA3 unit in Phoenix APUs with Meteor Lake.

[0] https://hothardware.com/news/intel-patent-details-adamantine...

I'd be surprised if it was in the next switch. Presumably they'd want to retain backward compatibility with the older switch games on ARM? Unless the games' developers can just hit recompile somewhere and get an x86 ver, but how realistic is that really?

Also, on these low-power machines I expect the recent upscalers like FSR and DLSS, especially since it'd be easy for nintendo to encourage all developers to integrate them, to be very relevant when outputting to a TV, and at least as of right now nVidia's dlss sadly still seems to result in a noticable quality uplift over FSR.

There's already quite a lot of switch emulation on the Steamdeck.

Are you saying NVIDIA does not have a successor to the chip they provided Nintendo? I thought the deal with Nintendo was a decade+ long deal?

NVIDIA hasn't had a competitive SoC in the mobile space since the Tegra X1. Looking at the Tegra timeline now, all subsequent SoCs have been part of their Jetson platform, or very limited 3rd party products.

So it could be a licensing issue, and they might have a successor specifically licensed to Nintendo. That would actually make sense, as Nintendo would likely want to stick to ARM, and use an exclusive chip not widely available. The discussion on Reddit is purely speculation at this point.

I do think NVIDIA hasn't been a player in this space for nearly a decade now. They were part of a great streak of devices in the early 2010s, but have effectively retired from the market for some reason. Thankfully, AMD has stepped in to fill the void.

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