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While I'm usually a no-macros kinda guy, but (I believe) leptos and dioxus provide tooling to hot-reload markup-only changes without (incremental) recompilation. Do you think that would be possible withour macros?

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I can't think of any practical way to do that without macros, unfortunately. I've found incremental compilation to be pretty speedy for small markup changes so far though. I do tend to put the presentation code in it's own crate for larger projects, which might make a difference. Maybe as my projects get bigger I'll start to run into problems.

Some other ideas:

- Temporarily stopping the rust-analyser server to avoid lock contention on the build dir.

- Using cranelift codegen backend (not sure of it's current status).

Thanks for the ideas! Separating out presentation crate into it's own crate sounds like a great idea. Re "temporarily stopping rust-analyzer", I came across this trick[0] to make RA use a different build path (trading off disk-space for speed, but I mean, disk space is cheap).

Re: cranelift, I gotta check that out! Thanks for the reminder!

[0] https://github.com/rust-lang/rust-analyzer/issues/6007#issue...

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