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> Compare ruby 1.9 to python 3.

They're not comparable, so no.

> I think JRuby is more mature than jpython

Pretty different situations, from 2006 to 2009 two lead JRuby developers were hired specifically for that by Sun (later left for EngineYard) and a third was hired by ThoughtWorks for the same.

For Jython this only happened in 2008, after the project had pretty much gone on freeze due to the original founder leaving to work on the Pypy project.

Compare IronPython to IronRuby instead, and the situation is reversed. Same if you compare Rubinius and Pypy.

> and I know this will start the flames, but I think ruby is clearly better for web stuff

That's your personal judgement, I don't agree.

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You dodged the first two issues. Python 3 is causing serious pain, does django work with it yet?

Second, who cares why JRuby is more mature, it is.

> You dodged the first two issues.

No (and screw you for your unwarranted downvote you ass)

> Python 3 is causing serious pain, does django work with it yet?

I did not deny that, I denied your equation of Python 3 with Ruby 1.9 when they have absolutely nothing in common and had very different goals.

> Second, who cares why JRuby is more mature, it is.

That's not the issue with your question, the issue is that you cherrypick a single alternative implementation which supports whatever claim you're trying to make and ignore all others. That makes your claim both dishonest and irrelevant.

IronPython is more mature than IronRuby, Pypy is more mature than Rubinius, by your comment that makes 2 for 1 therefore Python is superior to Ruby right? That's nonsense, because your original assertion is nonsense.

But hey, at the end of the day I couldn't expect much more from somebody who decided to turn a discussion on relative merits into a dick-size contest. I guess the western ruby community has not matured as much as I thought it did. Thanks for bringing me back to reality.

I didn't down vote you, it seems HN doesn't allow me to down vote on threads I'm participating in. If it did, I'd down vote your last comment.

I think the JVM is the more significant platform compared to the clr and rubinius/pypy. Therefore I think it's maturity is more significant.

The PyPy team is amazing, for example Quora is now running on PyPy. and it's easy for a Python programmer run PyPy as an alternative(and hopefully fast) implementation.

It's ironic that you would point the finger at communities for not being mature.

Yours is by far the least pleasant and counterproductive thread on this entire discussion

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