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Unionized Apple store workers want you to start tipping them

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So an employee is frustrated that the company isn’t paying him/her the deserved compensation, but instead of asking the employer to pay that, you turn to ask the customers who already pay an overpriced items?! What kind of logic is this? Or maybe just mimicking the mockery that happens in restaurant business.

Perhaps this is some kind of negotiation tactic? An attempt to shame apple into paying better (doubtful) or a concession to accept lower wages plus tips in exchange for other benefits?

Either way, I will never tip a retail worker. I don't even tip for counter service at restaurants. I an exception to that policy during covid lockdowns, but once places opened up to indoor dining/shopping/drinking that's when my tips ended. If you aren't waiting on my table, refilling my drinks, checking in to make sure I have everything I need etc. no tips for you, and even that I only do begrudgingly. I've been to places where tipping isn't even a thing in restaurants and I loved it.

If apple grants them this request and they put out the tip jar, I hope customers just laugh while they press the "NO TIP" button at checkout.

Maybe, although I doubt it, I think they hit a wall with apple and started looking for other means.. who knows.

And indeed, I don’t tip at all, restaurants or else, the only time I tip is if I happen to order some foods online during snowy days, as I know the struggle the driver went through. I find it difficult to comprehend why tipping mostly goes to the waitresses, not who actually did the work, the chef -although some restaurants distribute the tip, mostly don’t-, waitresses job isn’t even essential, I can go and pick up the plates myself, or better, automate the process, we actually did build some robots in my field of work that do the same job, additionally, why do I have to tip the waitress but not the barista?! Even though the later one actually do something useful..

The restaurants’ owners are exploiting young employees, mostly college students or younger for a low wage, and shouldering the rest on the customers, I honestly think there should a bylaw to prevent those tips, as it enables that exploitation.

> I don’t tip at all

I'm not going to be able to change your mind here, so I'll just say that it's a very particular behavior from a particular type of person.

I agree with not tipping. A living wage should be paid by the employer. Not by the customer.

I don't want to go to a store where the salespeople are essentially on commission, it means that anything that they say or do is useless and must be assumed to be intended to get you to spend money unnecessarily. This is what makes car buying so absolutely wretched, why would we want that anywhere else?

And this is on top of the already absolute bullshit that is American advertised prices.

That's dumb. Better to make Apple pay a better wage rather than force customers to cover the cost of wages - we need to get away from tipping as a 'thing' in general.

Lol... Maybe ask your multi-trillion dollar company to pay you well. No tips for you folks.

Why does anyone get tips? Are restaurants struggling to pay their employees?

If they are it's better that failures go out of business than force the public to subside their labor expenses. Make room for those who can run a restaurant successfully

I can negotiate on my own. I see no reason to ever join a union when they are almost always run by people as incompetent as this. No thank you.

If it’s a real idea rather than a negotiation tactic with Apple, then it does start to make it into a sales commission of 3-5% meaning employees will have more of an incentive to upsell regardless of benefit to the customer for a higher % cut.

As to how many customers would look to pay an extra $45 on a $900 phone…

tips? get fucking real.

having to step foot inside an apple store is utter chaos. they’re usually packed with people and generally what i consider a miserable time.

you should expect the most valuable company in the world pays you enough.

I’m still baffled that most people in the US (generalization based on the fact that tipping still lives on) accept tipping over making employers pay (or go out of business, if they can’t - capitalism) livable wage to their workers by making it a law.

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