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I'm in the US and have an iPhone but as I mentioned in another reply, I have friends with android and have never noticed any impediments to texting them... or them me? Is this a high school thing or are you talking about adults?

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There are any number family group chats that leave my sister out of things. She's the only Android user out of about 20 people. If she's on the threads then pictures, videos, and reactions are all broken. This is 100% deliberate by Apple, but the bias against Android users is real.

> but the bias against Android users is real.

From people who don't know it's an intentional limitation by Apple.

aka, mostly nontechnical people.

Genuinely asking: your family is not willing to use WhatsApp, Signal, Telegram, Teams, Discord, ..., to have your sister be included?

"Why should they have to install an extra app just because she wants to be different?"

Experiencing this sort of behavior keeps me from believing I am an understanding person.

I, as an adult, have been left out of many many group texts (and thus social activities) because they didn't want to make the convo green.

Queue the onslaught of empathetic "get better friends lol" -- except I've seen this behaviour across so many social circles that even if it was a viable suggestion, there's no certainty the next group would be any better.

I feel like I would move if I couldn't find any social circle aside from rabid blue-bubblers.

You would emigrate from the US?

You incorrectly believe your experience is representative of all of the vastly differing experiences of those in the US.

The phenomenon you're commenting on/describing happens often, perhaps is even common. But it is not ubiquitous.

Adults will comb group texts for the number preventing them from sending a photo at usable resolution and delete them.

Adults also send emails to 45 clear-text To: addresses, or Reply All thousands of people.

Is this a good heuristic for acceptable behavior?

I’m not making a judgement, just an observation. Ultimately in this case they’re moving from cleartext to an E2EE platform (iMessage) so maybe you’d be happier in this case?

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