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If you asked any of the CEOs from those companies banning ChatGPT we're in for a glorious AI-shaped future, until it comes to them. It doesn't really inspire any confidence.

Can you imagine if Marlboro or Philip Morris forbade their employees from smoking for health reasons?

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A lot of those companies have already set up their own instance of OpenAI's models running on Azure. I'm not involved with this directly, but it is my understanding that Microsoft are selling (and pricing) this aggressively.

Yep, with proper enterprise agreements in place. Using this as of now.

The problem is, it's not their instance, it's Microsoft's and nobody knows what MS does with the data.

Sure, but you can say the same thing about all of their cloud products and it doesn't seem to hold them back.

But their other products don't have a orompt do ask about that data

So what? How do you know that ChatGPT isn't trained on the documents you have stored in onedrive?

Perhaps it is more like Marlboro forcing its employees to smoke Marlboros - if those Marlboros were secret, non-public cigarettes only available on Marlboro premises. OK so maybe this metaphor is a little thin.

I see it more as "don't smoke in our facilities" since you cannot use ChatGPT when writing Apple's internal code, but you can use it on your own.

I'm fully aware my initial metaphor was a bit forced and it doesn't quite match 1:1 to the original point, but using AIs while at your workplace is the ideal usage they're trying to sell here.

It still gives me a "Do as I say, not as I do" vibe, and reinforces the idea that AI tech is being used merely as a trojan horse to capture and monopolize previously inaccessible markets for the companies building and training the models.

Apple probably will switch to a self-hosted solution.

What about all of us plebs who work at small companies not able to self host these models viably? This is the point OP was about. They want us to use their model at our jobs, while they are the first to disallow it at their offices.

I mean ChatGPT is not a creation of Apple so it would be better if you report an example, also a GPU is not that expensive and you can run on it LLM like StarCoder or more general ones like Vicuna for a small team of people with ease.

> Can you imagine if Marlboro or Philip Morris forbade their employees from smoking for health reasons?

Or if Steve Jobs disallowed his children from using iPads?

They will happily use the same technology to get their employees knowledge without the need to pay them any longer.

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