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I’m stating a fact with no opinion behind it. Russia owns Crimea. If the rest of the world cared or supported Ukraine back in 2014, they would have done something but no one lifted a finger including Obama.

These are facts. If the world wants to help Ukraine reclaim Crimea then they would be doing so but no one is.

Now whether the world SHOULD help Ukraine reclaim Crimea is a separate question but there is no confusion over the ownership of Crimea currently: it’s Russia. To argue otherwise is unintelligent and immature.

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1. Ukraine wants starlink over Crimea.

2. Russia does not.

Do you support #1 or #2? Mr. Musk has chosen #2, a decidedly pro-Russian stance on this matter. If you want to argue #2 or whatever, sure. Whatever. But that's on you buddy, and whatever semantic games you wanna play I don't have to put up with it. I recognize what you want.

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In any case, its obvious Mr. Musk isn't a reliable partner. We need to work on giving the Ukrainian commandos (and partisans) in Crimea access to internet without Starlink. Even if we somehow forced Mr. Musk into the right decision here, he could flip at any time. So finding an alternative satellite internet company is in USA's and Ukraine's best interest.

What exactly is your point now, because you’re all over the place and thrashing in a cringeworthy fashion.

You argued that Musk was “anti-Ukrainian” and I destroyed that argument with words from Ukrainian officials themselves.

Now you’re saying… that Musk is still anti-Ukrainian because he turned off Starlink in Crimea even though he has it in every other place in Ukraine? Or that Musk is inconsistent or capricious?

Go ahead but don’t expect me to participate and waste my time, I’m not interested.

My point is pretty simple. Musk should allow Ukraine to use Starlink in Crimea.

Do you agree, or disagree?

You have a way of dancing around my point. So lets be as short and direct as possible.'

> I destroyed that argument with words from Ukrainian officials themselves.

Cool. So... it wouldn't be so hard for Musk to enable Crimean access to Starlink? Argue all you want, but the Ukrainians are waiting. And whenever Mr. Musk supporters go on wild tangents about why Russia is the true owner of Crimea or some other crap like that, you only hurt the argument and further prove Mr. Musk's pro-Russian sympathies.

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