Fastmail.com continues to delivery great innovations and open sources much of their work.
They are the company largely behind this, check them out.
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They are the company largely behind this, check them out.
(I'm not affiliated in any way to them)
[0]: https://www.fastmail.com/blog/fastmail-snooze/
Edit: If you want your work emails to arrive only during work hours and otherwise delay them, you can use a Sieve condition in your email rule similar to this:
anyof (date :value "lt" "date" "hour" "09", date :value "ge" "date" "hour" "17")You're still using gmail's spam checking; it just uses the API (or IMAP? I forgot) to sync the emails to FastMail.
LOL
It’s like stepping back in time 20 years when soamassassin with default config is as good as it gets.
At the same time I really never have to check my spam folder for false positive, everything in there is literal spam so I forget checking it for weeks on end. Whereas on n Gmail I always need to check the spam folder, Google completely overdoes the filtering it and a lot of wanted emails end up in spam.
Before that, I used Gmail (on the same address, for about six years), and my memory is that its false positive rates were around one every month or two, and some of them actually mattered; and its false negative rates varied: sometimes it’d go for a few months with none, then it might let through one or two per day for a few weeks. Certainly less consistent. In the last year I’ve also had to use Gmail via a couple of organisations on addresses with very low volume (less than one per day) which have never received any spam, and both have had at least two false positives.
1. The bayesian filter updates only when you actually delete emails from the Spam folder.
2. There is a global and a personal spam filter. The personal one kicks in after 200 spam emails have been ingested/deleted. You need to break it in, like a pair of leather shoes.
3. Before this 200 email threshold, make use of automated rules to just mark stuff as Spam automatically, if like me, they have all a similar pattern. When your personal filter kicks in, you're golden and works as expected.
I don't have any spam issue anymore and I don't think I've ever seen a false positive either. So now it's smooth sailing.
I wish Fastmail documented this process, which was explained to me by their support after a dozen exchanges.
Funny aside: all the spam overwhelmingly comes from gmail.com accounts. Seems like Google needs to work on their terrible outgoing spam issue. They're the biggest spam sender now that no one runs open mail servers on the Internet anymore.
Report it to google, and make the world a better place.
But, first check the first received header that was added by your mail provider's servers to make sure the spam really is coming from gmail's servers-- oldest received headers are at the bottom, newer as you go up (e.g., view message source, view headers, or some such option in your client; look for received: from...).
Add a short blurb at the top of your message about spam received from their domain, include the message with full headers as text at the end of the email message body (some clients like MS outlook break mail, so this may be the only way the recipient will be able to view the headers if the sender is using one of these broken clients. Also attach the original spam message as an attachment (this will provide something useful to the recipient when sent by most ?all? non-Microsoft mail clients).
Send it to abuse@gmail.com
Report the stuff your spam filter catches too.
At past jobs, we took these reports very seriously. They were usually an indication that a user's account was compromised.
> Report it to google, and make the world a better place.
That's line is not gonna work on me. Google is a trillion dollar company that only cares about its bottom line, not a public good. They can sort it out themselves.
I have better things to do with my time than do Google spam team's job for free by reporting each spam email I receive manually.
I've had good responses from most places. An Eastern European domain registrar has revoked several scammer domains after my notifications. Some ISPs are a waste of time to send reports to, e.g., a few in E. Europe, and Colo Crossing. But, it is usually worth it to report abuse. I have an emeritus email address from a former employer where I made it my project since the pandemic to report all spam/scam mail received to that address. I cannot state that this is the reason nor even the main reason, but the volume of spam to that address has gone from a firehose to a single spam/scam message every 1-3 weeks.
Are you kidding? The Goo has never paid any attention to the victims of spam emanating from gmail accounts.
> Note: We recommend that you do not mark your Spam/Junk Mail folder to automatically learn as spam. This can create a false positive feedback loop. Imagine an email is incorrectly classified as spam, put in your Spam/Junk Mail folder, and then learned as spam. That means future emails that aren't spam are now more likely to be incorrectly marked as spam, sent to your Spam/Junk Mail folder, and learned as spam. Only mark folders to learn as spam if they're folders you manually move email to.
On the other end of things, GMail and Fastmail both miss about the same amount of spam that ends up in my inbox. Not a lot, maybe once or twice a week.
I wonder what it is about the emails you receive (vs. the emails I receive) that makes us see such different outcomes.
I contacted support and the just said "yup, those emails were suspicious and were correctly rejected." Err, no. If I'm the customer and day I want to receive an email you shouldn't be rejecting it.
I likely wouldn't have noticed if I didn't run a service that was emailing me. But after that I noticed other senders also being blocked. Adding to my address book also didn't work, I guess that whitelist runs after the accept/reflect decision.
It's a huge PITA when you're offline (say in a venue with no cover) and need to pull a ticket out of your inbox.
I'm a customer and can't believe they've been in business for so long. I guess this feature will never come.
I need a custom domain (or three). And I have a family of 6 people.
So that's $5 / user / month = $30 / month = $360 / year.
Unfortunately, that's not justifiable for me. And thus why I'm stuck using Gmail with a custom domain.
I've been using this for a year or so and my family's been happy with it.
I don't think you'd need any Apple gear at all to use it, but make no promises.
So I guess this is tied up then.
The custom email domain is a side feature... but it does work well, and it's essentially free (assuming you want your photos properly backed up... and who doesn't).
I'm not sure if that help article is accurate though - I would think you can subscribe to iCloud+ from their website. You have to go to the website to manage your email domains for example.
You pay for mailbox size and number of emails in/out. Can add as many domains/users as you like.
I use the micro tier ($20 a year), it's more than enough for me.
Recently compared Google, Office 365, Proton, Tutanota, Skiff, and Zoho. Surprisingly ended up with Zoho. Actually a decent experience so far, they've definitely upgraded their stack for the better from what I remember it was a decade ago.
Google Workspaces is $6 / user / month.
I presume you were grandfathered for free from personal G Suite, but for the rest of us fastmail is actually less expensive than google's offering (though google also gives you Drive space and whatnot).
Then I realized the alternatives (including letting everyone in the family decide their own email solution) were worse.
But honestly, I think even if I didn't expense - I'd still pay for it. It's a great product; everything is top-notch.
It's not suitable for bulk sending, but for transactional and personal email, I've found it meets my needs.
Be warned, however, that it appears to be a one-man band, and if he goes under a bus...
I'm also a happy user of Migadu. More polished GUI and more features. I've never hit their limits, so not sure how suitable it would be for a medium-sized enterprise. As with Purelymail, it's not intended to be used as a bulk sending service.
Only one of your accounts needs to be Standard tier ($50/y) to allow up to 100 custom domains. The other 5 accounts can be Basic tier ($30/y) and still use as many custom domains as you give them access to. Total undiscounted cost for your family would be $200/y.
Use the 25% 1Password discount to reduce your total to $150/y. You have the option to extend that 25% discount up to 3yrs and receive an additional discount for paying in advance. Your total for your first 3 years would be $420, then $560 for each 3 years thereafter.
Alternatively, you could consider allowing all your family members use the same Standard account ($105 for the first 3yrs) but with multiple email addresses. Use labels to surface each address for the relevant family member.
In my case, I created a family@surname address for any family business, and a name@surname address for each family member. Each family member has set their Fastmail app to focus on their own address. Yes, technically, they can see each other's email, but it hasn't been a problem. I presume they use throwaway gmail accounts for stuff they want to keep totally private.
We share a specific custom domain for our masked emails and love that feature, especially the 1Password integration although that has some rough edges.
I've been using Google Apps for email for 10+ years and I don't want my e-mail provider to die at the whim of some Sand Hill investor's emotions at a bay area house party.
that history does not assign to me confidence in them as custodian of my emails
I'd recommend trying them out for a bit and just keeping Gmail in your back pocket. May as well decide for yourself than listening to randoms on HN.
I'd rather entrust my mail service to someone who wants to keep running it strongly enough that they'll put their own money down to keep doing it.
The alternatives are mostly investor-owned companies - if this years CEO decides to fuck you over, they can replace any staff who object.
We're entirely funded by our customers, and fully self-bootstrapped. We have no debts to outside parties.
We have 8 owners, 7 of which work in the business and the 8th is the brother of one of the founders (and only owns a couple of percent).
Source: I'm CEO. Have worked here since 2004, through the Opera acquisition (I moved to Norway for nearly 2 years) and back. We've controlled our growth such that we keep our spending under our income - I know, what a shocking idea in current day!