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You make it sound like this is the new steam engine, but is it really that historical of a product? Nothing here strikes me as an entirely novel idea, in fact it just seems like an iteration on an already pretty well developed concept

Not wireless. Higher price than a Quest. Lame.

> Not wireless

It's supposedly an autonomous device, although from the photos it seems that there's a brick on a cable to carry around.

I'm just snowcloning "No wireless. Less space than a nomad. Lame" since the comment I'm replying to seems like an unintentional snowclone of exactly what GP comment was talking about.

Ignore me.

It’s everything that’s best from the VR world put in one package by Apple. The only downside to this device for VR might be if it isn’t supported by SteamVR or OpenXR. If this is a walled garden, it will be more of a niche product for professionals. If you can plug this into any PC to do VR, it’s actually quite awesome as a headset, but pretty expensive due to all the extra chips.

I will admit I was curious. I am not an Apple fanboy; quite the opposite. But if it will jailbroken the same way phones were, there is a potential there. Naturally, I would assume developers will be able do whatever they want anyway.

This is the first device from Apple that.. I might consider buying if it looks like something I could use. And that is despite the crazy price.

I think as a VR headset alone it's worth $1.5k due to the features it has (4k+ OLED per eye, inside-out tracking, hand tracking, etc.), so I guess the other $2k is half due to this thing being a whole iPhone on your face (basically) and then some "Apple Product Premium" for the other half, since Apple makes nice products that work well for the most part. I see it as expensive, but well worth it, assuming you could use this with regular PCVR titles, like having SteamVR or OpenXR support. If it doesn't have support for PCVR, then it's a tough sell for me, personally.

I don't think riffic suggested they know whether the impact will be significant or not. It was just a reminder to check our hubris.

Yep, you could probably describe the iPhone as an iteration on an already pretty well developed concept too

A lot of people were even less charitable at the time.

Last October, I sent my coworker a short rant that chatbots don’t work, never will, and everyone really needs to stop trying to build them.

ChatGPT was released a week later. My coworker claims he’s gonna have my rant framed.

It's been what ? 8 months ? Who lost their job ? Where is skynet ?

Or not.

It's not like past always predicts the future. Apple has a lot of stinkers too, just not recently. Apple TV (the HW device) is not all that successful either.

On the other hand, this is rather hype-free (no metaverse!!!!! no AI!) and has actual usecases presented. Also I thought Apple Watches were stupid, but now almost everyone has one. So, who knows.

"A new era of facial computing."

I mean its pretty clear how this stuff goes by now.

1. Tech already exists. Not really widely adopted since its super niche.

2. Apple comes along, takes existing tech, makes it sleek, gives it modern processing power, integrates it into the apple ecosystem, puts everything behind a paywall

3. Because Apple is cool and has brand recognition, people adopt the tech and start using it.

4. Non Apple cheaper alternatives eventually pop up.

Rinse and repeat. Happened with iPod, iPhone, iWatch, e.t.c

Looks Rad yo.

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