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So, you need to spend $3k to get playable framerates, which are possible with a 3060 laptop, maybe even a 3050ti, as they can do 1080p, this just seems to be 900p.

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The point is that you'll be able to play games on the machine you already have. Yes, a PC with GPU is going to be better and people that are really into gaming will probably always opt for that. But there's a big casual market out there too.

Actually you can play these games with Xbox Series S at 1440p easily. I wonder if people would just simply buy a game console (if they don't already have one) for the more demanding titles. Most people don't need a processor that is nearly as powerful as M1 Max, and I doubt anyone is going to spend extra money on a computer just for its GPU that doesn't even play games as well as a $300 console.

>Actually you can play these games with Xbox Series S at 1440p easily.

The Xbox Series S version of Cyberpunk runs at 30 FPS with a dynamic resolution between 2304x1296 and 2560x1440 on quality mode and at 60 FPS with a dynamic resolution between 1410x800 and 1920x1080 on performance mode. If you were to run it with a fixed resolution of 1440p, then you'd definitely not be averaging 30 FPS.

There are options if you just want to play the game, yes, but Apple did the work here, and met developers the wrong half way IMO. If you just want to play with higher settings and fps on the computer you have, less emulation is better, as impressive as it might be. A Vulkan driver would be less emulation and more performance all around I think. Also, $300 can buy a lot of games if games can be made to run well with minimal work.

The last thing I still use my windows machine for is the occasional gaming session. I'd love to be able to be rid of it forever. This seems like a positive step in that direction.

I play Cyberpunk with an aging AMD RX570, and get consistent rate of 45 FPS running at 3K with high quality settings.

I'm not an Apple fan, but have to admit that Apple chip is getting incredible frame rates, considering it has no discrete GPU.

I'm already spending $3k for my laptop so that I can develop.

This means I won't _also_ have to spend several thousand dollars on a gaming PC in addition.

Yes, but then you have a gaming laptop...

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