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Yes. This simply makes it legal for the Dutch government to hack their citizens. It doesn't matter what the intentions or purported rules are, if they are self-regulating then there are no limits. The publicly stated intentions and rules only give some naive people peace of mind.

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Coming from the State that did not yet resolved one of the worst scandals ever...And from the Prime Minister that deleted official government data for years...

"Dutch scandal serves as a warning for Europe over risks of using algorithms" - https://www.politico.eu/article/dutch-scandal-serves-as-a-wa...

"Dutch PM has been deleting text messages daily for years: report" - https://nltimes.nl/2022/05/18/dutch-pm-deleting-text-message...

Don't overreact, they just kidnapped a few thousand kids from their families and placed them with foster parents due to some bureaucratic hick-ups. No biggy.

  > kidnapped a few thousand kids from their families

What is this?

A sarcasm if you take into account "no biggy" part

https://nltimes.nl/2022/05/11/1675-children-removed-parents-...

That is not even the worst...The government resigned because of the scandal. The article below is a "sad face" of the prime minister at the time. I leave it as exercise for the curious reader a comparison with the current prime minister...

"Dutch government resigns over child benefits scandal" - https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/jan/15/dutch-governme...

its funny how when its "government" that does atrocities in the name of "government" and "democracy", its simply a "scandal", but if you or I stormed in and kidnapped the children of members of parliament, it would be a "viscious attack on democracy".

I wonder, at what point does a government become and enemy of the people, and defending oneself is legitimate? is it when the storm troopers comes to take your children based on false premises? if no, what is is then?

im sure a "scandalized government" will say that its "never", but really, when as criminals ever agreed that going against them is okay?

And the same government is in place they just switched some roles around. The PM is still the same.

And those fuckers are not in prison? And then they talk about "our democracy" and teaching other countries how to "respect human rights".

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Parliamentary_immunity

I get it. But I think there should be some limits. Otherwise they can do just about anything and walk away. Taking away children on a basis of pure speculation I think is plain and clear crime from which they should not be absolved.

True, and that has happened, of course. But luckily, immunity can also be revoked.

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