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"Five hundred dollars? Fully subsidized? With a plan? I said that is the most expensive phone in the world," Ballmer reportedly said of the first iPhone.

"And it doesn't appeal to business customers because it doesn't have a keyboard. Which makes it not a very good email machine."

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That's just cherry picking. Lots of people said the Apple Newton would likely be a flop and it was indeed a flop.

Are you arguing that Apple's headset will be a flop, or just being contradictory?

That's... also cherry picking?

Yes. That's the point.

It shows that the previous comment is cherry picking by providing a contrasting example, and it shows how cherry picking can say anything.

To move the goalposts slightly, Apple is a very different company pre and post Jobs return.

They had tons of flops before he came back, but the company is almost completely changed post.

of course, one could argue that he’s gone and that is lost as well, but they seem to continue delivering imho

By all accounts, Apple have absolutely nailed it when it comes to how the product works. The key to its wide-scale success from this point forward is not how well the product works, but in making it affordable to the masses. Apple have already cleared the “needs amazing product thinking” hurdle and now it’s all about getting the supply chain to where it needs to be. They don’t need a Jobs, they need a Cook.

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